This page is about the censoring/editing of the Palo Alto Online.  Way back I came to the conclusion that the censoring actually harms the chances of issues being exposed (not to mention other serious issues closely connected/related to censoring).

I decided to post the occurrences of censoring that I’ve happened to note. Obviously, I do not see everything. Obviously, I cannot see everything.

At some point I decided to start  posting comments which I did not see before being edited (only the “after”). Obviously, missing a comment which has vanished does not enable me to post even the “after”, since I have missed the fact that the comment has been posted.

Here are two related  quotes:

“…I feel this is an important area for discussion within the community about the power of censorship in shaping an biasing the discussion on Palo Alto issues…. – Anonymous (http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/05/a-plea-to-village-fool)
“… Lately Bill Johnson seems to be editing for content of speech rather than manner or tone. He appears to have particular ideas about what kinds of arguments “help” the “community” and what do not. This is unfortunate since it appears to be a slippery slope with a lot of deletions occurring. To say he owns the means of expression is a bit unsatisfactory given the expectations set for online communications and free speech in the electronic age. In practical terms it is a big commitment of time and energy for the weekly staff that would be better spent in improving its reporting especially in the area of education…” -PalyDad (http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2013/09/06/editorial-a-bridge-apart)

And – Here’s a list of threads which were locked completely. I am listing the threads’ titles, subtitles and links. (work in progress):

1. In secret, school board weighs not cooperating with federal agency

Board vice president says Office for Civil Rights is ‘strong arming’ district into adopting new policies

by Palo Alto Weekly staff / Palo Alto Weekly

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2013/07/12/in-secret-school-board-weighs-not-cooperating-with-federal-agency

2. In-depth report: How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying

How one family’s willingness to reveal their school bullying ordeal exposed the need for change in the Palo Alto school district

by Terri Lobdell / Palo Alto Weekly

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2013/06/14/in-depth-report-out-of-the-shadows

3. More PAUSD turnover

Original post made by Better or worse on Jun 17, 2014

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/17/more-pausd-turnover

4. Why is Town Square So Out of Sync With Dominant Free Speech Norms of the Internet; or, is this Forum Not a Forum Anymore Due to Heavy-Handed Editing of Posts

Original post made by village idiot on Sep 9, 2013

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/09/09/why-is-town-square-so-out-of-sync-with-dominant-free-speech-norms-of-the-internet-or-is-this-forum-not-a-forum-anymore-due-to-heavy-handed-editing-of-posts

5. A plea to Village Fool

Original post made by Anonymous on Dec 5, 2013

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/05/a-plea-to-village-fool

6. In unanimous comments, school board challenges federal agency

Original post made on Aug 1, 2014

link”http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/06/in-unanimous-comments-school-board-challenges-federal-agency

7. Invitation only candidates meeting

Original post made by Rupert of henzau on Aug 1, 2014

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/08/01/invitation-only-candidates-meeting

(to be updated/work in progress. I did not forget Curious’ threads. I think that Curious’  locked threads call for a separate section, thus  reorganizing the list above, and eventually reorganizing this page which is way too long. I could not foresee the length of this page when I started it.  I’ll try to get to that as soon as I can).

You are very welcome to email to me comments posted online, before being edited, or prior to being totally removed (vanished). Please include link and title of thread. Thanks!!!

forvillagefool@gmail.com

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Thread Titled: School board members debate superintendent’s authority

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/05/15/school-board-members-debate-superintendents-authority

Before:

Posted by BetterPartOfCaution
a resident of Barron Park
15 hours ago

@Rehash “The “Me Me Me” crowd will not take responsibility, they will continue to focus on only their wants and deny the impact on anyone else.”

Right. Which is why they cannot lead.

Good leadership goes hand-in-hand with teamwork: we are all in this together.

It is so obvious that this decision requires leadership who thinks not about their personal gain, but rather considers the possible consequences for their charges. It sounds cliche, but think of the children.

The ME crowd is just further evidence of the bad culture instilled in some of these players. PAUSD remains a place where the scales have tipped from ‘Community ‘ to
‘Every Man for Himself and The Devil take The Hindmost’

Such attitude is not fit for leadership.

And I can imagine being exposed to this attitude everyday in class is wearing on kids.

After:

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Comment:

Thread was restricted to those who log in. Restricting  threads to registered users  proved to stifle the discussion. 

Here are, again, the last  lines of the last unrestricted comment, above:

“…

The ME crowd is just further evidence of the bad culture instilled in some of these players. PAUSD remains a place where the scales have tipped from ‘Community ‘ to
‘Every Man for Himself and The Devil take The Hindmost’

Such attitude is not fit for leadership.

And I can imagine being exposed to this attitude everyday in class is wearing on kids.

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Before:

Posted by Brian Kaplan
a resident of Barron Park
25 minutes ago

Dear “Experienced Parent”,

I would love you to explain “If it were up to a vote, parents would overwhelmingly vote against zero periods.” as it utterly fails to accept that EVERY Gunn parent had a chance to “vote” on zero period for THEIR child if and when they were asked to sign the permission form.

I apologize for calling you out, but you seem to claim to some unique ability to parent other people’s kids by using “Experienced” in your fake name. I would maintain you have Zero ability to parent my kids. Period, end of story.

Many argue the “medical” evidence presented is dispositive. Hardly. There has been Zero research on the question of early risers (remember farm kids), choice, and mental health.

I assume my neighbor from Barron Park is a lawyer (only a lawyer would use the term dispositive; or perhaps someone who paid for SAT prep).

Please share with all of us this dispositive evidence that focuses on research on the question of early risers, choice, and mental health.

The anti-zero period majority fall into three camps:

1) Concerned parents who are so shaken by the affects teen suicide has had on our community they are willing to do ANYTHING they think will help prevent more suicides (WORRIED)

2) Parents who think they know better what’s good for other parents’ kids. (SUPERIOR)

3) This last group is a tough one to talk about. It is those parents who are concerned their child was “disadvantaged” by this “hyper-achievement” group of self motivated kids who self selected and wanted to take classes at 7:15a. (JEALOUS)

I believe there is subtle cultural bias at work in both the SUPERIOR and JEALOUS groups mostly aimed at Asian-Americans.

The stereotype being activated is the concern that these Asian-American parents are so hyper-driven to see their kids succeed (defined as getting into a top college from US News & World Report) that they push their child so hard that when the child perceives he is not living up to his parents expectations, he is put under incredible pressure/stress that in the most extreme cases leads to suicide.

The SUPERIOR group feels compelled to intervene and take the zero period decision away from these parents.

Some in the JEALOUS group don’t like the competitive academic nature of the school system in general and Gunn/Paly in particular. They want their child to be well-rounded; able to take sports, music, dance, or just have some healthy downtime. They are torn between wanting their child (and others) to have more non-academic time and knowing the “system” of getting into high ranking schools prioritizes academic achievement. The system of 5% acceptance, means that academic achievement is the first cut. If you don’t have amazing grades and super strong test scores, don’t bother applying. From there, elite schools can then pick and choose from the incredible non-academic achievements of the applicant pool; world-class piano player, national debate champion, started a non-profit, worked on curing cancer, etc.

I have no idea how these groups break down in terms of percentage and many parents would occupy more than one group.

What I do know is their numbers in total far out weigh the small grouping of parents who had kids who said they wanted to take a zero period. My guess is that most parents in the CONCERNED group did not even know zero period existed.

The decision has been made. I don’t fault Max for making it given the pressure being exerted. What I find fault with is the disingenuous way in which the “concern for all kids” banner has been waived to mask some of what’s going on in groups 2 and 3.

I will continue to assert that the overall system works better when parents who know (or should know) what is best for their kids are making decisions as opposed to other parents or school leaders.

Yes, both Gunn and Paly are academically competitive schools. Both rank in the top 250 out of 23,000 High Schools. We, as parents, are making a choice to spend more on housing to live in Palo Alto. If you feel Gunn or Paly is just too competitive a place for your child, do what is right for your child and make a different decision for them. Pocket the huge gain on your home and move to a different school system. Most parents in American have limited choice about where their child goes to school based on economics. Here is just the opposite.

That said, there should indeed be more work done to improve the quality of life for our students (schedule, homework, social/emotional work in school) but eliminating zero period (which was working for those who chose it) was just an easy target.

Best,

Brian

After:

Posted by Brian Kaplan
a resident of Barron Park
15 hours ago

Dear “Experienced Parent”,

I would love you to explain “If it were up to a vote, parents would overwhelmingly vote against zero periods.” as it utterly fails to accept that EVERY Gunn parent had a chance to “vote” on zero period for THEIR child if and when they were asked to sign the permission form.

[Portion removed.]

Many argue the “medical” evidence presented is dispositive. Hardly. There has been Zero research on the question of early risers (remember farm kids), choice, and mental health.

[Portion removed.]

Please share with all of us this dispositive evidence that focuses on research on the question of early risers, choice, and mental health.

The anti-zero period majority fall into three camps:

1) Concerned parents who are so shaken by the affects teen suicide has had on our community they are willing to do ANYTHING they think will help prevent more suicides (WORRIED)

2) Parents who think they know better what’s good for other parents’ kids. (SUPERIOR)

3) This last group is a tough one to talk about. It is those parents who are concerned their child was “disadvantaged” by this “hyper-achievement” group of self motivated kids who self selected and wanted to take classes at 7:15a. (JEALOUS)

I believe there is subtle cultural bias at work in both the SUPERIOR and JEALOUS groups mostly aimed at Asian-Americans.

The stereotype being activated is the concern that these Asian-American parents are so hyper-driven to see their kids succeed (defined as getting into a top college from US News & World Report) that they push their child so hard that when the child perceives he is not living up to his parents expectations, he is put under incredible pressure/stress that in the most extreme cases leads to suicide.

The SUPERIOR group feels compelled to intervene and take the zero period decision away from these parents.

Some in the JEALOUS group don’t like the competitive academic nature of the school system in general and Gunn/Paly in particular. They want their child to be well-rounded; able to take sports, music, dance, or just have some healthy downtime. They are torn between wanting their child (and others) to have more non-academic time and knowing the “system” of getting into high ranking schools prioritizes academic achievement. The system of 5% acceptance, means that academic achievement is the first cut. If you don’t have amazing grades and super strong test scores, don’t bother applying. From there, elite schools can then pick and choose from the incredible non-academic achievements of the applicant pool; world-class piano player, national debate champion, started a non-profit, worked on curing cancer, etc.

I have no idea how these groups break down in terms of percentage and many parents would occupy more than one group.

What I do know is their numbers in total far out weigh the small grouping of parents who had kids who said they wanted to take a zero period. My guess is that most parents in the CONCERNED group did not even know zero period existed.

The decision has been made. I don’t fault Max for making it given the pressure being exerted. What I find fault with is the disingenuous way in which the “concern for all kids” banner has been waived to mask some of what’s going on in groups 2 and 3.

I will continue to assert that the overall system works better when parents who know (or should know) what is best for their kids are making decisions as opposed to other parents or school leaders.

Yes, both Gunn and Paly are academically competitive schools. Both rank in the top 250 out of 23,000 High Schools. We, as parents, are making a choice to spend more on housing to live in Palo Alto. If you feel Gunn or Paly is just too competitive a place for your child, do what is right for your child and make a different decision for them. Pocket the huge gain on your home and move to a different school system. Most parents in American have limited choice about where their child goes to school based on economics. Here is just the opposite.

That said, there should indeed be more work done to improve the quality of life for our students (schedule, homework, social/emotional work in school) but eliminating zero period (which was working for those who chose it) was just an easy target.

Best,

Brian

 

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Thread Titled: Palo Alto looks to limit chain stores on California Avenue

Link :http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/05/15/palo-alto-looks-to-limit-chain-stores-on-california-avenue

Before:

Posted by Chairman Mao
a resident of Charleston Gardens
4 hours ago

Yes, keep chains out! No Starbucks in Forbidden City so no KFC on Cali Ave. Thank you for keeping PA just like PRC.

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Posted by Ahem
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
4 hours ago

I think Chairman Mao would have a great deal of admiration for the chains stores destruction of small independent businesses, and the resulting centralization if power.

After:

Posted by Chairman Mao
a resident of Charleston Gardens
7 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by Ahem
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
7 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled: Gunn schedule change wins support, but implementation feels rushed to some

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/05/13/gunn-schedule-change-wins-support-but-implementation-feels-rushed-to-some

Before:

Posted by A student died while in zero period
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
58 minutes ago

“I am self-taught in statistics”

I am not.

“BEAT! beat! drums!—blow! bugles! blow!
Through the windows—through doors—burst like a ruthless force,
Into the solemn church, and scatter the congregation,
Into the school where the scholar is studying;
Leave not the bridegroom quiet—no happiness must he now have with his bride,
Nor the peaceful farmer any peace, ploughing his field or gathering his grain,
So fierce you whirr and pound you drums—so shrill you bugles blow.”
W.Whitman 1865

We are not all in this together. Some of us are not “in this” anymore. Primarily.

After:

Posted by A student died while in zero period
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on May 13, 2015 at 7:23 pm

[Post removed.]

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Sorry, but further commenting on this topic has been closed.

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Thread Titled: The academic ‘arms race’ and myths about Asians

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/05/11/guest-opinion-the-academic-arms-race-and-myths-about-asians

Before:

Posted by Bunyip
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
1 hour ago

Whoever is moderating needs to relax. I state actual genetic variants in racial groups and they are removed. Why? Is it a crime to talk about biology?

To solve a problem we must first be free to discuss it. Shame on you.

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Posted by Need
a resident of Old Palo Alto
23 minutes ago

@Bunyip asks: “I state actual genetic variants in racial groups and they are removed. Why?”

Probably because your post might be confused to imply that Asians are genetically smarter than others. You wouldn’t want others to believe that is your position when the evidence for it is pretty sketchy, even among reputable researchers. Eugenics went out of style for lack of evidence, and a World War.

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Posted by Nerd
a resident of Old Palo Alto
12 minutes ago

Sorry…auto-fail.

Last post should have been from me ‘Nerd’,

not ‘Need’

After:

 

 

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Posted by Need
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on May 15, 2015 at 9:48 pm

[Post removed.]

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Comment – Bunyip and Nerd vanished. 

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Before:

Posted by Me
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
26 minutes ago

Oh dear! I thought we are still on the tree disparity issue…..

After:

Posted by Me
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
14 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled: Shots fired at officers in Menlo Park during police chase

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/29/shots-fired-at-officers-in-menlo-park-during-police-chase

Before:

Posted by Hmmm

a resident of East Palo Alto

2 hours ago
Hmmm is a registered user.
Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users who are logged in. Register or Log inWhy?

After logging in:

Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto

5 hours ago
Hmmm is a registered user.

Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users.Click here to view comment. Why?

How come East Palo Alto is referred to, constantly, as EPA, but Palo Alto gets to be called Palo Alto all the time? Is typing one more short word that difficult for people? C’mon, you can do it.

This was posted here because PAW covers East Palo Alto

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Thread Titled: Palo Alto school district ranks sixth in state

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/08/30/palo-alto-school-district-ranks-sixth-in-state

Before:

Posted by Miranda C., Gunn High School Graduate
a resident of Los Altos Hills
6 hours ago

The fact that this article is celebrating minority students’ low score compared to the white and asian students is absolutely disheartening. These happy and celebratory attitudes towards Hispanic and Black students getting low scores highlights the racist social structure planted in our minds, as well as the cultural oppression in the system. The fact that you yourself are happy about their low score and highlight how “Palo Alto is proud of the significant growth demonstrated in the socio-economically disadvantaged, African-American and students-with-disabilities subgroups” supports your belief that Hispanics and African American students are born inferior, and are not as smart as being born white/asian. Our culture/community/school today puts so much pressure on whites/asians, yet our culture puts little to no pressure on minority groups because our culture EXPECTS them to fail. Well, news flash for YOU. we need to change these attitudes and beliefs in the schools and the community. Hispanics and African American students NEED to be believed in and pushed and supported JUST LIKE how the white and asian kids are being pushed and supported up the ladder in the ever growing, gentrification of Palo Alto.

After:

Sorry, but further commenting on this topic has been closed.

Comment – Last comment was posted and thread was locked on 4/29/15. This thread started in 2013. It is not uncommon to post new comments on old threads. Regardless of personal opinion, this discussion is obviously unwelcome.  Interestingly, the last  post was not removed. Locking threads this way proved to silence the discussion.

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Thread Tilted: Battle over Measure A heats up

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/24/battle-over-measure-a-heats-up

Before:

Posted by George Jaquette
a resident of Palo Verde
1 minute ago

Sorry, I just can’t help myself. If you bother to read the anonymous posts and spend some time digging up what they are bothered about, you see that this anonymous relic @No Schoology No Cash must live in a cave with no antenna. When funding is cut, the union rep is not fired — she becomes all-important. When funding is cut, the district is not free to choose which hidebound instructor to fire … the last-hired, first-fired policy is enshrined in union rules.

Don’t kid yourself. Max is not going to cut his own salary or pass on a trip to Singapore because a bunch of anonymous nasty people opposed Measure A. Teachers will be warned first (spring 2016) and fired later if this measure does not pass.

Expecting this to be elided, I will note that attributed (signed) comments are mostly for Measure A (and a tip of the hat to those openly in opposition, including Lee The and Robert Smith — I respect your point of view) and anonymous (and some personally venomous) posts against Measure A are anonymous. Which crowd do you want to stand with?

George

After:

Posted by George Jaquette
a resident of Palo Verde
9 hours ago

[Portion removed.] When funding is cut, the union rep is not fired — she becomes all-important. When funding is cut, the district is not free to choose which hidebound instructor to fire … the last-hired, first-fired policy is enshrined in union rules.

Don’t kid yourself. Max is not going to cut his own salary or pass on a trip to Singapore because a bunch of anonymous nasty people opposed Measure A. Teachers will be warned first (spring 2016) and fired later if this measure does not pass.

[Portion removed.]

Comment:

[Portion removed.]#1: “Sorry, I just can’t help myself. If you bother to read the anonymous posts and spend some time digging up what they are bothered about, you see that this anonymous relic @No Schoology No Cash must live in a cave with no antenna…”

[Portion removed.]#2: “…Expecting this to be elided, I will note that attributed (signed) comments are mostly for Measure A (and a tip of the hat to those openly in opposition, including Lee The and Robert Smith — I respect your point of view) and anonymous (and some personally venomous) posts against Measure A are anonymous. Which crowd do you want to stand with?

George”

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Thread Titled: Teachers union defends decision to file grievance against Gunn principal

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/22/teachers-union-defends-decision-to-file-grievance-against-gunn-principal

Before:

Posted by Annonymous 2
a resident of Mayfield
1 hour ago

The angry comments posted on many stories reflect a very dysfunctional community. The tendency to assign blame, to point the finger at the “other” seems to profile this community.

How interesting that this highly educated community seems to lack for the most part, reflection, perspective, and empathy.

What does the future portend?

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Posted by Umm…
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 minutes ago

@Annonymous 2:

I have to say, the wildly different writing styles in your post make me think of a 10th grader writing an essay where new vocabulary words are encouraged.

Portend? Yes, I know what it means, but who uses that work these days?

>>The tendency to assign blame, to point the finger at the “other” seems to profile this community.

So, we’re profiling ourselves?

I’m not trying to make fun, just encouraging you to write as who you are, not as a student in English class – it will be much more effective.

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Posted by Umm…
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
0 hours ago

Sorry, should have said: Portend? Yes, I know what it means, but who uses that *word* these days?

After #1;

Posted by Annonymous 2
a resident of Mayfield
2 hours ago

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

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Posted by Umm…
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
40 minutes ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by Umm…
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
21 minutes ago

Wow, try to give a little writing advice and my post gets completely removed. My post was completely genuine!

And what does this action portend?

After #2:

Posted by Annonymous 2
a resident of Mayfield
12 hours ago

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

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Posted by Umm…
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
10 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Comment: ‘Umm’s second comment gone, vanished., no trace left. Two tiimes in a row. 

@Umm – Seriously? mentioned censoring practices? Where do you think you are? Learn your place, please.

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Thread Titled:Pedestrian struck by bicycle in Palo Alto dieslink:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/22/pedestrian-struck-by-bicycle-in-palo-alto-dies

Before:

Posted by Hmmm
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
53 minutes ago

If the two were of different races, I’ll bet there would be an issue here even though it’s an accident.

After:

Posted by Hmmm
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
9 hours ago

[Post removed.]

Before:

Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto

3 minutes ago
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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto

3 minutes ago

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My condolences to her family and other loved ones. What an avoidable, horrible tragedy.

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Thread Titled: District eyes expansion of student research program

link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/21/palo-alto-school-district-eyes-expansion-of-student-research-progra

Before:

Posted by This is why half the town is against Measure A
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
6 minutes ago

Point 1: PAUSD is not a magnet boarding school. It is a K-12, open-enrollment district intended to serve all students.

Point2: Independent research requires a large scale investment of teacher time and that means money. As the story reports, at McGee’s elite magnet boarding school one day per week was set aside for this curriculum. It is the centerpiece of the school and a primary focus.

Supervising independent research is very labor intensive for teachers. Right now, advanced subject teachers are teaching large sections of lecture/discussion classes. In order to supervise the research of even 10 students, that would require probably 6-8 hours per week. That’s one FTE full day. If you scale that to 100 students, that’s 60 to 80 FTE per week. There is no way to do this in groups because every project is different and they are all individual. Given the breadth of subject matter, this involves many teachers. Many teachers would have to either have release time from their current work or would have to be hired anew to teach this new curriculum.

This is not something that the board should rush into. It is a major shift for the curriculum at both schools and will require major money — in the millions of dollars very quickly.

It will be a giant shift of funding from the middle and bottom to the top that will revise substantially the entire high school curriculum.

Point 3: This is a stress-machine. There are many students, including my own children, who were in no way ready to do indpendent research at this young age. They would have found this overwhelming and terrifying. But they would have felt compelled to do it since the new expectation of a gradaute from Paly or Gunn will be to show their thesis on their college apps to compete with their peers or to answer questions about why they didn’t pursue it.

No high school student needs to do independent thesis work. This is better done senior year of college, or in grad school. But even if there are a few who want to do it, the entire curriculum should not be reordered to make everyone feel obligated, nor should funds be spent in that endeavor.

Palo Alto is a large K-12 Unified district, not a small elite state-wide magnet boarding school. It is not Phillips Exeter, not Andover, not IMSA. We don’t have the money for this and our kids don’t need the stress.

This is just the kind of shiny penny that districts the board members. They will oooh and aahh about this thing and fantasize the photo-ops (I think there is going to be a slideshow tonight! Slides! Will any board members be in the pictures! They love to see their own pictures up on the screen! Can we wear crazy hats!) without really understanding how much they are committing to. Once you hire this full time coordinator you are basically buying the whole thing and committing yourselves to a big change in our curriculum without really even understanding what the long-range costs and implications will be.

This is a terrible idea. It is stuff like this that has caused half the community to be in open rebellion over the parcel tax. Can’t you just do your job McGee? Just pay the bills, lower stress, be a good manager, bargain with the union, get things done on time and correctly. Do not try to revise the entire curriculum and re-create IMSA because it was your happiest professional experience. That’s not who and what this is.

After:

Posted by This is why half the town is against Measure A
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
9 hours ago

Point 1: PAUSD is not a magnet boarding school. It is a K-12, open-enrollment district intended to serve all students.

Point2: Independent research requires a large scale investment of teacher time and that means money. As the story reports, at McGee’s elite magnet boarding school one day per week was set aside for this curriculum. It is the centerpiece of the school and a primary focus.

Supervising independent research is very labor intensive for teachers. Right now, advanced subject teachers are teaching large sections of lecture/discussion classes. In order to supervise the research of even 10 students, that would require probably 6-8 hours per week. That’s one FTE full day. If you scale that to 100 students, that’s 60 to 80 FTE per week. There is no way to do this in groups because every project is different and they are all individual. Given the breadth of subject matter, this involves many teachers. Many teachers would have to either have release time from their current work or would have to be hired anew to teach this new curriculum.

This is not something that the board should rush into. It is a major shift for the curriculum at both schools and will require major money — in the millions of dollars very quickly.

It will be a giant shift of funding from the middle and bottom to the top that will revise substantially the entire high school curriculum.

Point 3: This is a stress-machine. There are many students, including my own children, who were in no way ready to do indpendent research at this young age. They would have found this overwhelming and terrifying. But they would have felt compelled to do it since the new expectation of a gradaute from Paly or Gunn will be to show their thesis on their college apps to compete with their peers or to answer questions about why they didn’t pursue it.

No high school student needs to do independent thesis work. This is better done senior year of college, or in grad school. But even if there are a few who want to do it, the entire curriculum should not be reordered to make everyone feel obligated, nor should funds be spent in that endeavor.

Palo Alto is a large K-12 Unified district, not a small elite state-wide magnet boarding school. It is not Phillips Exeter, not Andover, not IMSA. We don’t have the money for this and our kids don’t need the stress.

This is just the kind of shiny penny that distracts the board members. They will oooh and aahh about this thing [portion removed] without really understanding how much they are committing to. Once you hire this full time coordinator you are basically buying the whole thing and committing yourselves to a big change in our curriculum without really even understanding what the long-range costs and implications will be.

This is a terrible idea. It is stuff like this that has caused half the community to be in open rebellion over the parcel tax. [Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled:  Living large by living small

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/17/living-large-by-living-small

Before:

Posted by Adorable Freeloaders
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
1 hour ago

It is not legal in Palo Alto and in many areas to “find land to live on.” As the story makes clear, it is not lawful to live in a vehicle on private land, even if it is in the backyard out of the way. Either you can live in a mobile home park, where you pay rent (fine) or you live on the street which is legal but is also freeloading if you can afford to pay rent. You are using the city services provided by taxpayers to avoid paying them yourself. You are like Walmart telling your workers to go get foodstamps and medicaid. You are using the fact that the government provides these things to enrich yourself. You are freeriding.

That is not of course what those who are actually forced to live in their cars do. They are poor. You are not poor. You are selfish. That is different. You say you can’t afford it. But having to scrimp and not being able to go out to eat and party is not the same thing as being poor. You are trying to figure out how to get the things that you would otherwise have to pay for, like police and fire protection for free so that you can spend your cash on something other than that — you can buy more clothes if you don’t have to spend all your money on police and fire and schools etc. But the rest of us are paying for it for you and if everyone did what you are doing the taxes would go up for those of us paying them. To subsidize you, you selfish pretend homeless brats.

After;

Posted by Adorable Freeloaders
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
2 hours ago

It is not legal in Palo Alto and in many areas to “find land to live on.” As the story makes clear, it is not lawful to live in a vehicle on private land, even if it is in the backyard out of the way. Either you can live in a mobile home park, where you pay rent (fine) or you live on the street which is legal but is also freeloading if you can afford to pay rent. You are using the city services provided by taxpayers to avoid paying them yourself. [Portion removed.]

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Before:

Posted by Adorable Freeloaders
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
11 minutes ago

It’s gross to see this idea celebrated when just recently our idiot City Council passed a law that would prohibit genuine poor people from being poor and living in campers and this newspaper blackened its own reputation by endorsing that ridiculous ordinance.

It took an aggressive litigation effort by a coalition of concerned local attorneys to protect the poor from being criminalized for being forced to live in their cars. That wasted the time of a lot of people who could have been doing something else. The City Council finally repealed the ordinance under pressure. This publication has never admitted that it was wrong to endorse the ordinance criminalizing living in a car. Now it wants to promote this adorable white upper class couple and their cute fantasy of choosing to live in a school bus.

The double standard is appalling and these people are not adorable. They are freeloaders. The poor have no choice. They are just trying to exist. These people are trying to avoid paying taxes to support the city and school services that make the community liveable. Even though they can afford to carry their own weight, they want to choose not to, and “drop out” by parking their fucking monstrosity of a bus somewhere in Palo Alto, using our services but not contributing to paying for them through paying real estate taxes as part of their rent payments.

So the Weekly gives the adorable freeloaders a featurette while it endorses chasing the poor from the town like Tom Joad fleeing the Pinkertons. What next?

After:

Posted by Adorable Freeloaders
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
8 hours ago

It’s gross to see this idea celebrated when just recently our idiot City Council passed a law that would prohibit genuine poor people from being poor and living in campers and this newspaper blackened its own reputation by endorsing that ridiculous ordinance.

It took an aggressive litigation effort by a coalition of concerned local attorneys to protect the poor from being criminalized for being forced to live in their cars. That wasted the time of a lot of people who could have been doing something else. The City Council finally repealed the ordinance under pressure. This publication has never admitted that it was wrong to endorse the ordinance criminalizing living in a car. Now it wants to promote this adorable white upper class couple and their cute fantasy of choosing to live in a school bus.

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Thread Titled: McGee: Tax renewal would protect Palo Alto school programs

Link http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/10/guest-opinion-tax-renewal-would-protect-palo-alto-school-programs

Before:

Posted by Another dad
a resident of Barron Park
6 hours ago

@Parent said: “I am offended and disgusted by the attempt at emotional blackmail by bureaucrats and politicians”

Remember that emotional blackmail is classic PR strategy.

It’s very likely (in fact almost guaranteed) that many of the “yes on A” comments on this blog, and others, are being funded, created, and managed by the PR person that the district hired.

This is what PR people do. I used to hire PR agents for corporate projects. They have entire teams who post fake comments. It’s a big business. The online journals often remove posts that “point this out” because they don’t want to admit they’re being manipulated.

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Posted by Slow Down
a resident of Community Center
4 hours ago

Slow Down is a registered user.

@Another dad – Maybe there are PR shills posting pro prop A messages, but MAYBE there are 5 disgruntled parents who post non-stop crapping the district because it is less painful than dealing with their own troubled kids. We’ll see on election day.

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Posted by Another dad
a resident of Barron Park
58 minutes ago

@Slow Down

A lot of kids have committed suicide in this district. Local medical experts have clearly stated that stress and school issues are some of the biggest issues. Many, many parents are concerned.

In that context, you comment about “disgruntled parents who post non-stop crapping the district because it is less painful than dealing with their own troubled kids” is incredibly offensive. And 100% wrong.

After:

Posted by Another dad
a resident of Barron Park
on Apr 15, 2015 at 12:50 pm

[Post removed.]

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Posted by Slow Down
a resident of Community Center
on Apr 15, 2015 at 4:10 pm

Slow Down is a registered user.

[Post removed.]

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Posted by Another dad
a resident of Barron Park
on Apr 15, 2015 at 8:01 pm

@Slow Down

A lot of kids have committed suicide in this district. Local medical experts have clearly stated that stress and school issues are some of the biggest issues. Many, many parents are concerned.

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Thread Titled: ‘Yes on A’ campaign raises more than $46,000

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/15/yes-on-a-campaign-raises-more-than-46000

Before:

Posted by I can’t remember the name I used
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
36 minutes ago

Susan Usman’s post is a terrific example of the kind of reflexive poormouthing that the district and its surrogates commit on the unsuspecting public. Interesting that the Weekly did not delete it as inaccurate (as it does to us mere mortals) rather than doing what it did was add an unprecedented “Editor’s note” at the bottom of her post correcting her inaccurate facts.

That’s helpful so that we can see the kind of inaccurate statements being made. Usman states as fact:

“We have lost approximately $4 million of income annually from the Cubberley lease as well as having to fund our employee pension plan that the state has pushed onto school districts.”

Nope. as the “Editor” states the figure of rental income is less than half the number Usman states — it is actually 1.9 million and it will be used for upkeep of a district owned property, so it’s not gone at all. We didn’t “lose” it — it is simply being used to maintain a district asset.

Presumably other district funds would have had to be spent to maintain Cubberley unless the district intends to continue to treat it as a wasting asset and allow it to just fall down.

What the parcel tax needs from the PTA is not $999 dollars and an inaccurate blog post. What the parcel tax needs from the PTA is advocacy in the district on issues that voters care about on behalf of children. Where is the PTA on zero period, homework, schoology, the shameful public bludgening of Denise Herrmann by the union, counseling at Gunn, 200 students at Paly on a suicide list, 50 students at Gunn being hospitalized this year alone — where is the PTA on any of this?

Show up and do what people care about. You are supposed to be an advocacy organization. Advocate.

After:

Posted by I can’t remember the name I used
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
3 hours ago

Susan Usman’s post is a terrific example of the kind of reflexive poormouthing that the district and its surrogates commit on the unsuspecting public. [Portion removed.]

“We have lost approximately $4 million of income annually from the Cubberley lease as well as having to fund our employee pension plan that the state has pushed onto school districts.”

Nope. as the “Editor” states the figure of rental income is less than half the number Usman states — it is actually 1.9 million and it will be used for upkeep of a district owned property, so it’s not gone at all. We didn’t “lose” it — it is simply being used to maintain a district asset.

Presumably other district funds would have had to be spent to maintain Cubberley unless the district intends to continue to treat it as a wasting asset and allow it to just fall down.

What the parcel tax needs from the PTA is not $999 dollars and an inaccurate blog post. What the parcel tax needs from the PTA is advocacy in the district on issues that voters care about on behalf of children. Where is the PTA on zero period, homework, schoology, the shameful public bludgening of Denise Herrmann by the union, counseling at Gunn, 200 students at Paly on a suicide list, 50 students at Gunn being hospitalized this year alone — where is the PTA on any of this?

Show up and do what people care about. You are supposed to be an advocacy organization. Advocate.

Comment: 

[Portion removed.] = Interesting that the Weekly did not delete it as inaccurate (as it does to us mere mortals) rather than doing what it did was add an unprecedented “Editor’s note” at the bottom of her post correcting her inaccurate facts.

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Before:

Posted by @George Jaquette
a resident of East Palo Alto
0 hours ago

@George Jaquette –

I post on my blog comments Before & After censorship.

One of your removed comments can be found along many other censored comments here:: Web Link

And here are two related quotes:
1.
“…I feel this is an important area for discussion within the community about the power of censorship in shaping an biasing the discussion on Palo Alto issues…. – Anonymous (Web Link)

2.

“… Lately Bill Johnson seems to be editing for content of speech rather than manner or tone. He appears to have particular ideas about what kinds of arguments “help” the “community” and what do not. This is unfortunate since it appears to be a slippery slope with a lot of deletions occurring. To say he owns the means of expression is a bit unsatisfactory given the expectations set for online communications and free speech in the electronic age. In practical terms it is a big commitment of time and energy for the weekly staff that would be better spent in improving its reporting especially in the area of education…” -PalyDad (Web Link)

VilllageFooool

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Posted by George Jaquette
a resident of Palo Verde
7 minutes ago

@VilllageFooool

Thanks for your support. I think I would enjoy a beer or coffee with you, and I hope to meet you live some day.

George

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Posted by @George Jaquette
a resident of East Palo Alto
0 hours ago
@George Jaquette-Thank you! Yes, a coffee or beer will be nice.village____ffoollPS –
And here’s to another George…”… The sinister fact about literary censorship in England is that it is largely voluntary.
Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news — things which on their own merits would get the big headlines-being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is ‘not done’ to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was ‘not done’ to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness.
…”George Orwell
The Freedom of the Press
Orwell’s Proposed Preface to ‘Animal Farm’

After:

gone. Vanished.

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Before:

Posted by We should not be Bell
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
50 minutes ago

@George

You called me a name and attacked me personally, even though you do not know me and I have stood up in our community and taken hits for things that have almost certainly benefitted YOUR kids. I doubt very much the reverse is true.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but calling me names will never persuade me to vote for something that is already questionable.

That is exactly the problem I am having with the district, overpaid administrators who get personal and take out their petty grievances even if it hurts children, rather than dealing with the issue and solving problems.

Please direct me to where in the ballot I was mailed that it promises exactly where this money will go, with no weasel words. I see extremely vague things like “protect … from budget cuts caused by 10 million dollars per year in reduced funding and new cost mandates;”

Actually, that was cuts from the recession. We have a flood of new dollars now that the recession is over that more than offset that reduction. The state significantly reduced mandates on schools last year in case people hadn’t noticed.

Like I said, go ask Bob Golton – will the projects we were promised in the bond measure all be done? (No) Words like “preserve” “protect” “intend” are completely meaningless as far as what will actually be done with the money. There are no specific and defensible programs or actions in this measure. They are just asking us for money that they can basically do whatever they want with. Maybe it will go to pay for teachers but we were already paying for those teachers before the recession. The recession is over.

I’m still waiting to hear if we reduced ANY administrative waste or reduced salaries at all during the recession. Many other sectors, public and private did. Did PAUSD? I don’t think so. Why not? Because there is no mechanism for it. There is so much more waste in that part of our operations than we will get from this tax.

Although, please post the numbers if you want me to take you seriously that there is any counter to this problem.

NO.

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Posted by George Jaquette
a resident of Palo Verde
14 minutes ago

To @ Bell

My comments get edited, yours do not.

I am posting my opinions publicly, you are not.

You are a coward by any definition.

George

After:

Posted by We should not be Bell
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

@George

[Portion removed.]

Please direct me to where in the ballot I was mailed that it promises exactly where this money will go, with no weasel words. I see extremely vague things like “protect … from budget cuts caused by 10 million dollars per year in reduced funding and new cost mandates;”

Actually, that was cuts from the recession. We have a flood of new dollars now that the recession is over that more than offset that reduction. The state significantly reduced mandates on schools last year in case people hadn’t noticed.

Like I said, go ask Bob Golton – will the projects we were promised in the bond measure all be done? (No) Words like “preserve” “protect” “intend” are completely meaningless as far as what will actually be done with the money. There are no specific and defensible programs or actions in this measure. They are just asking us for money that they can basically do whatever they want with. Maybe it will go to pay for teachers but we were already paying for those teachers before the recession. The recession is over.

I’m still waiting to hear if we reduced ANY administrative waste or reduced salaries at all during the recession. Many other sectors, public and private did. Did PAUSD? I don’t think so. Why not? Because there is no mechanism for it. There is so much more waste in that part of our operations than we will get from this tax.

Although, please post the numbers if you want me to take you seriously that there is any counter to this problem.

NO.

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Posted by George Jaquette
a resident of Palo Verde
38 minutes ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled: Why Are You Supporting Measure A

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/blogs/p/2015/04/05/why-are-you-supporting-measure-a

Before:

Posted by George orwell, a resident of Adobe-Meadow,
42 minutes ago

“… The sinister fact about literary censorship in England is that it is largely voluntary.
Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news — things which on their own merits would get the big headlines-being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is ‘not done’ to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was ‘not done’ to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness.
…”

George Orwell
The Freedom of the Press
Orwell’s Proposed Preface to ‘Animal Farm’

After:

Gone. Vanished.

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Thread Titled: Changes eyed for Palo Alto’s animal shelter

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/03/changes-eyed-for-palo-altos-animal-shelter

Before:

Posted by Jones
a resident of Esther Clark Park
2 hours ago

Contract SVACA just Mountain View did. SVACA is doing a great job in Mt View. Palo Alto Shelter has done its job in Palo Alto, now it is time to move on. Let SVACA take over it. It could save a good amount of money for Palo Alto, so the money could be invested in other programs in the City.

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Posted by Jane
a resident of Meadow Park
2 hours ago

Come on KEENE, we all know that is time to save money and NOT waste money. This shelter has passed the time to be close down. Just look at Mountain View, the city is very happy with SVACA and I know for a fact that SVACA is doing a great job, cause I volunteer at SVACA. Just look at the numbers and we all can see that NO money is coming in BUT just going out. I know, “Palo Altans will say how about the poor animals” well SVACA will do its best for them.

After:

Posted by Jones
a resident of Esther Clark Park
on Apr 8, 2015 at 10:40 pm

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Posted by Jane
a resident of Meadow Park
on Apr 8, 2015 at 10:51 pm

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Thread Titled: Principals describe ‘new campus cultures’

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2011/02/03/principals-describe-new-campus-cultures

Before:

Posted by Listen to the kids
a resident of Gunn High School
on Feb 20, 2011 at 11:44 pm

The principals congratulate themselves and the board applauds. But has anyone asked the kids what they think about the current culture and how they feel?

Social cruelty and cyberbullying continue. Cutting and other forms of self-harm continue. Cut-throat competition abounds.

If you don’t look for these signs and symptoms, you won’t see them.

Don’t think all is suddenly all good just because they say so. Ah, but were it that simple…

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Posted by Name hidden
a resident of Portola Valley

45 minutes ago

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?

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Posted by Thanks Skelly
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
37 minutes ago

“”If you ask for somebody’s opinion, you have to do it authentically,” Winston said. “If you get information different from what you’d hoped for, there’s nothing wrong with acknowledging that and asking how we can use it to make our lives better.”

“For example, I just asked a student whether the reason white girls like him is because of his black dong,” said Winston. “The response I got was very authentic.”

This is better than watching re-runs of the office.

After:

Posted by Listen to the kids

a resident of Gunn High School
on Feb 20, 2011 at 11:44 pm

The principals congratulate themselves and the board applauds. But has anyone asked the kids what they think about the current culture and how they feel?

Social cruelty and cyberbullying continue. Cutting and other forms of self-harm continue. Cut-throat competition abounds.

If you don’t look for these signs and symptoms, you won’t see them.

Don’t think all is suddenly all good just because they say so. Ah, but were it that simple…

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Posted by Thanks Skelly
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
8 hours ago

[Post removed.]

Comments:

I am name hidden. My comment was posted and removed on Apr 6, 2015. I noted below that the personal censoring has escalating recently. village fool  does not exist anymore. Even when signed in, I am ‘name hidden’. When I post, name on Town Squarer list is the name of the previous commenter.  When I happened to be the first to comment, Town Square indicated – posted by  , . That is thin air, nothing. 

I decided to post on this old thread, some history. ‘Thanks Skelly’ posted after me. It was clear that ‘Thank skelly’s comment could not remain as is. However, a trace of Thanks Skelly’ s was l eft. I vanished, completely. This has been going on for quite a now.  Village fool (me) gets personalized treatment by the Weekly. I wonder why. 

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Thread Titled: PAMF docs: What we can do to reduce risk for our teens

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/03/20/guest-opinion-what-we-can-do-to-reduce-risk-for-our-teens

Before:

Posted by Name hidden
a resident of another community

1 hour ago
village fool is a registered user.

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?

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Posted by Parent
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
23 minutes ago

village fool,
I do not know why you are being e-shunned, because you generally have reasonable things to say. I am going to guess you are asking for clarification of my statement:

“Very vulnerable students can be colonized by fungal organisms — they may be affected even after they leave the problem environment.”

This is, depending on how it is interpreted, pretty uncontroversial or very controversial (not without foundation, just controversial).

The fact that lots of unhealthy things can happen to kids because of indoor air quality problems is without controversy and there is a strong consensus on that, much of which has developed in the last 10 years.
What that statement above it means is that some students in a very unhealthy environment might have lung or sinus tissue abnormally colonized by the same microorganisms growing in unhealthy proportions in that environment. This can go on to impact them even when they move away or advance to another school, or graduate. Depending on the student’s unique vulnerabilities or subsequent circumstances, things may improve or get worse. That interpretation is NOT consensus, but health and the microbiome are definitely a hot topic of research.

There is no consensus on what exactly causes health impacts to occupants when dampness is an issue: is it mold, toxins produced by the mold, dustmites, bacteria and viruses that also flourish, toxins they produce, release of chemicals from modern building materials because of the dampness — we don’t know. What the experts do know, and is the strong consensus, is that INDOOR dampness (as you might have with a shower, or condensation on windows — this is not outdoor humidity) correlates very strongly with health impacts in occupants.

I heard from a teacher who had been complaining about indoor air quality problems at one of the high schools for years without any redress. Since there are no laws protecting school children even from IAQ hazards in schools, I would like to suggest to teachers who care to help children that there is a way to move this issue a little more quickly if you want to protect kids now. OSHA doesn’t have really strong air quality protections, but they are better than what’s available for children (which is nothing).

There is a program of the National Institutes of Occupational Safety and Health — if just 3 teachers or employees of a school site complain, the district or employer has to do certain things that are likely to improve the environmental health of the facilities. Since we have the ability to make improvements with our bond measure, too, if there are complaints, it is likely to trigger a more comprehensive set of improvements, if only to prevent future liability if we don’t. (We already face increased liability for our district having ignored this anyway, we should fix things just for that reason alone!) Teachers can make their complaints confidentially:

Web Link

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Posted by Name hidden
a resident of another community

19 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?

After:

Gone, vanished.

Comment – I am silenced, my “name” removed. The Weekly went great length to silence me.

 Why would the Weekly want to silence me this way? This page may be a reason, but it is old. I have been posting those Before & After for a long time. The recent vigilance of silencing me is quite intriguing. 

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Thread Titled: Paly school board rep: ‘The sorrows of young Palo Altans’

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/03/25/paly-school-board-rep-the-sorrows-of-young-palo-altans#comment_form

Before:

Posted by James
a resident of Palo Verde
31 minutes ago

Carolyn, I am sorry that your family and/or friend structure has fostered an environment that is insufficiently suppotive of you. But what are you proposing, really? That the district create a single math class, to the benefit of the 25th-50th percentile of students whose feelings are easily bruised by facing reality? Would you rather they call the class, ” Math for students who have enormous potential?” Tracking is critically important for the education of the top 25% and bottom 25% of students. Perhaps the district would be better off with three levels of classes: Top 25%, middle 50%, and remedial 25%. It would be a tremendous disservice to set up the bottom 25% to fail (just to propo up the feelings of overly-sensitive bottom 50 percentile students). It would be an even bigger tragedy to rob the world of the next Einstein, just to fluff up the feelings of overly-sensitive teenagers with a false sense of accomplishment. Not everybody is cut out for MIT. Not everybody should go to a 4-year liberal arts college. You seem like a passionate and articulate girl. If during your senior year, you get accepted to college and decide to attend, you can try your luck there. BUt if you aren’t accepted to college, there are plenty of other excellent options for students. Don’t worry about fitting into the traditional mold.

After:

Posted by James
a resident of Palo Verde
1 hour ago

Carolyn, [Portion removed.] But what are you proposing, really? That the district create a single math class, to the benefit of the 25th-50th percentile of students whose feelings are easily bruised by facing reality? Would you rather they call the class, ” Math for students who have enormous potential?” Tracking is critically important for the education of the top 25% and bottom 25% of students. Perhaps the district would be better off with three levels of classes: Top 25%, middle 50%, and remedial 25%. It would be a tremendous disservice to set up the bottom 25% to fail (just to propo up the feelings of overly-sensitive bottom 50 percentile students). It would be an even bigger tragedy to rob the world of the next Einstein, just to fluff up the feelings of overly-sensitive teenagers with a false sense of accomplishment. Not everybody is cut out for MIT. Not everybody should go to a 4-year liberal arts college. You seem like a passionate and articulate girl. If during your senior year, you get accepted to college and decide to attend, you can try your luck there. BUt if you aren’t accepted to college, there are plenty of other excellent options for students. Don’t worry about fitting into the traditional mold.

Comment: While I totally agree with  Big Brother that the [portion removed][ was tasteless, and not factual, I think that the censoring was not called for, this day and age. James comment speaks, clearly, to the credibility that can be expected. 

Before:

Posted by PALY Student
a resident of Palo Alto High School
0 minutes ago

The majority of the news regarding Palo Alto high schools right now is negative. Complains stir up more notice and response than compliments and praises. I believe that it is necessary to point out what a truly amazing, strong, and supportive district PAUSD is, including the high schools. I am currently a senior at Paly and have gone through all of my education years at PAUSD. While I understand that Paly is not for everyone, it is important to acknowledge that the positives greatly outweigh the very few cons and that most people have an amazing experience. Everywhere at Paly I see smiling faces, from the first day of school to even finals week. I am surrounded by extremely talented teachers and classmates. The author of this student sadly has not experienced what I and many have at Paly. My experience is not rare, it is more common. However, it is the negative experiences that get more attention than the positives. In this article the author stresses how demoralizing class lanes are. But that is a part of education. Every student needs to be placed in a class that is suitable for them. And not all students in middle school are ready for higher lanes. A student with a C in math in sixth grade should not be placed in the same math course in seventh grade as an A in math student, because both of their needs would not be met. Some students need the extra support while others need to be pushed. I am a student who has had friends in higher lanes and lower lanes and I am someone who is grateful for the classes that I have taken. Academics at Paly can be rigorous but they push me to show me how strong I am. Of course I have been overwhelmed at times but I would not change those moments; they are a part of life. I have absolutely loved my PAUSD experience. If you walked on to Paly and interviewed students you would get more praises that complains. You would get to hear about all of the incredible things that students are involved in. All of the students are talented and I feel so lucky to be surrounded by people who both push and support me.
This is one student’s view of Paly and while true to them, it is not true for me and many other students at Paly. For all those reading this who have not gone through Paly themselves, you cannot judge Paly off of one person’s viewpoint.

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Posted by PALY Student
a resident of Palo Alto High School
20 minutes ago

The majority of the news regarding Palo Alto high schools right now is negative. Complains stir up more notice and response than compliments and praises. I believe that it is necessary to point out what a truly amazing, strong, and supportive district PAUSD is, including the high schools. I am currently a senior at Paly and have gone through all of my education years at PAUSD. While I understand that Paly is not for everyone, it is important to acknowledge that the positives greatly outweigh the very few cons. [Portion removed.] In this article the author stresses how demoralizing class lanes are. But that is a part of education. Every student needs to be placed in a class that is suitable for them. And not all students in middle school are ready for higher lanes. A student with a C in math in sixth grade should not be placed in the same math course in seventh grade as an A in math student, because both of their needs would not be met. Some students need the extra support while others need to be pushed. I am a student who has had friends in higher lanes and lower lanes and I am someone who is grateful for the classes that I have taken. Academics at Paly can be rigorous but they push me to show me how strong I am. Of course I have been overwhelmed at times but I would not change those moments; they are a part of life. I have absolutely loved my PAUSD experience. If you walked on to Paly and interviewed students you would get more praises that complains. You would get to hear about all of the incredible things that students are involved in. All of the students are talented and I feel so lucky to be surrounded by people who both push and support me.
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Thread Titled: Palo Alto opts for lighter touch in new Baylands bridge

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/03/17/palo-alto-opts-for-lighter-touch-in-new-baylands-bridge

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Posted by Hulkamania
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
46 minutes ago

Hulkamania is a registered user.

Total bummer. The architects are obviously a bunch of hacks. [/snark]

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Posted by Hulkamania
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
6 hours ago

Hulkamania is a registered user.

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Thread titled:  Editorial: The ‘zero’ period hypocrisy

Link: http://paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/03/13/editorial-the-zero-period-hypocrisy

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Posted by Stunned
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
3 minutes ago

Actually, I’ve been wrong. Zero period should be allowed. I concede

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Posted by Stunned
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
31 minutes ago

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Thread Titled:  Palo Alto is changing for the worse and its effecting our teens

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/03/11/palo-alto-is-changing-for-the-worse-and-its-effecting-our-teens

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Posted by Anguished Parent
a resident of Gunn High School
4 minutes ago

OPar,

Sheesh, for someone who takes such umbrage thinking I didn’t read through some crappy looooong opinion piece, you keep responding like you didn’t even bother to read my posts.

“I *might* see why you’re going on and on and on and on about this if science fairs were the issue here, but they’re not.”

You’re right, if you bothered to read my posts. As I said several times, the point is that the way you have handled the science fair situation illustrates and is completely analogous to what everyone is doing above, dumping all over parents and drawing other sweeping conclusions about how to respond to school stress and the tragedies based on a little bit of out-of-context fact and a lot of stereotyping and opinion. Some of the kids who have spoken out eloquently about the response to the tragedies have said as much, asking us adults to be more responsible.

I have no trouble with you disagreeing with me. I have trouble with you dumping all over a valuable resource for kids based on stereotyping and absolutely zero personal experience and no interest learning about it.

In both of the above situations, our kids deserve better.

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Posted by Anguished Parent
a resident of Gunn High School
1 hour ago

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Thread Titled:  Stevenson House shakeup boots director, staff

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/28/stevenson-house-shakeup-boots-director-staff#comment_form

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Posted by mark weiss
a resident of Barron Park
11 minutes ago

OK so you delete or restrict my comments, but at least you write your own follow up, asserting the same, sad, or alarming group of facts. Your readers thank you.

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Posted by Name hidden
a resident of another community

0 minutes ago

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?

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Gone. Both comments were  posted and disappeared on 3/7/15.

Comment: I am “Name hidden”.  Anything I post   transforms automatically to the comment above and disappear later. At this point i do not bother to post a comment, just few characters as comment space is mandatory.  I “twit”  using the name field which appears on TS summery.  I do not do that often. This is how it looks (I   colored my “twit” orange):

Stevenson House shakeup boots director, staff

A major shakeup at senior-housing community Stevenson House has resulted in the dismissal of its longtime executive director…

Original post made on Feb. 28, 2015
Last comment by Mark Weiss- frm village fool: “A desperate disease requires a dangerous remedy”-Guy Fawkes,

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Thread Titled:  Great leaders know when to apologize

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/03/04/great-leaders-know-when-to-apologize

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Posted by No more Skellys
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
14 hours ago

Kevin Skelly used apologies like some folks use Kleenex, and that’s what a Skelly apology was worth. Except to him. It was worth around $2,000,000 over seven years because people like apologies, and they really like Skelly’s until people realized that was the extent of his leadership.

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Posted by No more Skellys
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Mar 4, 2015 at 6:04 pm

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Comment- (about this thread):

Minor correction –  Randy Pausch’s last lecture was presented in Carnegie Melon University (not Cornell). CMU initiated and hosted the ‘Last Lecture’  forum. Sadly, it was R. Pausch’s last lecture, literally. 

And –  I have some thoughts about Great leaders, apologies etc. Hopefully, I’ll post here,  my blog.   I cannot (and do not want to) post the minor correction I listed here on the PA weekly site.  I am automatically  removed/deleted.

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Thread Titled: Housing Corporation fends off ‘whispers of suspicion’ over director’s living arrangement

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/03/03/housing-corporation-fends-off-whispers-of-suspicion-over-directors-living-arrangement

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(Comment- I have  underlined/bolded the censored words).

Posted by Cassandra
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
5 minutes ago

@ UNreasonable Citizen,

I heard Tim Gray has worked on affordable housing in the past, and is a proponent. I think he is being very brave. There were many, many problems with the Maybell proposal. People in neighborhood put effort into trying to work with PAHC so the affordable housing could be possible. They tried to get a working group like the very same people did when they saved the Terman School site from development and got the Terman affordable apts built.

The City Council said PAHC was being inflexible (Councilmember Klein said he had never seen so much stonewalling in a development application from anyone.) It was PAHC, not the neighborhood, that was being unreasonable. PAHC’s smearing the neighbors as you are doing now for political purposes to get their way is just one serious reason to care about whether conflicts of interest and personal gain guided PAHC’s actions.

Using nonprofits as cover for for-profit development in cities is nothing new. It has been a big problem in New York, for example.

The potential serious issue at stake as reported here: “One recurring issue,… has been the use of nonprofit groups to direct state money to friends and family.”
Web Link

Here’s a report about how lawmaker ties to nonprofit groups can result in corruption.
Web Link

For-profit development with very little detail divulged to the public was such a major part of that Maybell proposal, if there were personal conflicts of interest causing it, the public deserves to know. It ABSOLUTELY has to do with taxpayer money, starting with the $600,000 to $700,000 extra the City paid for an election that had to be held sooner rather than later at the lower cost in order for PAHC to get the rezoning in time for no one to notice they had provided improper verification of rezoning in order to qualify their application against other affordable projects — Why are YOU so against affordable housing that you think only the most expensive units in the world are worthy of support but poor people elsewhere are beneath your notice if an organization in Palo Alto causes them to lose their affordable housing?

PAHC had influence on staff and the City decline to purchase the Maybell property on behalf of the taxpayers. We could have had a cheap and maybe free park in a very good location. The kids at Gunn High School, Terman Middle School, Juana Briones Elementary School, the OH at Juana Briones Elementary School, don’t have any community space in the neighborhood. That neighborhood is completely underserved for community space. The kids go hang out by the drug store. Both of the children in the recent tragedies lived next to the Maybell property – What if there had been a community space and vribrant center of community life right there next door? Right now, there is nothing in that whole area.

Gonzales had influence on the board through personal relationships. PAHC had huge influence in the City. If Golden Gate Homes is their first development and related to O’Hanlon, the public has many interests in this.

@PAHC resident,
I am glad you are in good housing. Corruption at PAHC hurts affordable housing, not people who are against corruption.

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Comment: Since the [Portion removed.] is at the end of the comment, I have copied  only the last two lines, after censoring – 

@PAHC resident,

I am glad you are in good housing. [Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled: Concerns over PA Housing Corp

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/26/pahc-chief-living-in-maybell-ranch-house

Before & After –  since those are long writings,   I have underlined and bolded  the removed portions, I hope I did good on that. – vf

The following is the thread as posted by neighbor, vf:

The Weekly should consider its past biases that caused the overlooking of the FACTS and evidence it was provided for those facts that were given to the Weekly AND in a public meeting, rather than deleting them because it’s inconvenient given the previous bias displayed in PAHC’s favor.

The public should know these things. Every statement can be backed up by evidence, much of it public and in your possession.

There are a number of serious issues that concern all residents:

1) In order to quality for funding they did not meet the qualifications for without the rezoning, PAHC’s Gonzales also represented to the state on forms that say “under penalty of perjury” that the property had been rezoned and they had all rights to develop, even though the property was never rezoned, not even one day. Because of this misrepresentation, they were awarded millions of dollars from the state. They eventually gave the money back, but in the meantime, other affordable housing applicants around the state in less wealthy communities missed out on that funding round and may have had to scrap their projects because of PAHC’s misrepresentations, because the state did not redo the process for that round.

2) The state believed PAHC’s misrepresentations only because the City acted as an impartial third party, providing verification in writing. City employees knowingly misrepresented the rezoning as having happened more than once, even though it had not, plus other misrepresentations, and claiming all CEQA appeals had expired even though there was an active CEQA suit.

Beyond just being wrong and possibly constituting perjury, it is evidence of very, very strong influence by PAHC within the City — how many people do you know in good paying jobs would risk putting a lot of knowingly wrong information on an application in order to get millions of dollars for another organization? Given the inappropriate personal benefits Gonzales derived, perhaps it’s finally time to investigate this further in our own City employees.

Our City attorneys made misrepresentations to the public during that mess, too. The article quotes Stump as saying she will be the one looking into this — the fox guarding henhouse. Who reviewed the misrepresentations sent to the state? Who stood up in front of the public during the rezoning debates and claimed a state anti-NIMBY law (which turned out not to apply to rezonings at all when residents looked it up) tied City Councils hands so they had to rezone? Who wrote that ballot that was deemed by an elections firm as so biased it was probably illegal?

The biased ballot is not beside the point. Making it seem as if the referendum was a vote of whether to put senior housing there was just incorrect. The political tack Gonzales, PAHC, and Council then took was poison that pitted neighbor against neighbor and destroyed relationships that have still not healed.

3) If the City won the referendum that November, they expected no one would notice the misrepresentations. This became an incentive to take the referendum to a vote at the earliest possible time when it was the MOST expensive, rather than when it was least expensive, costing taxpayers over $600,000 more than a vote at the next general election. I thought the City gave PAHC six-figure sums then, am I wrong? My memory of monies paid to PAHC as reported in the Weekly back then are far greater than what the Daily Post is reporting. If that’s true, why the difference?

4) PAHC clearly had significant influence in the City. When they decided not to move forward with another plan but to sell the property, the City had the right to purchase the property in first right of refusal, but decided not to because staff recommended against it. The City’s own appraisal of the orchard itself (not including the houses in which Candace Gonzales was living) was little more than the City had already invested in the purchase, and yet they chose not to buy what would save the 100 trees still there and have been a valuable place for a community space on a side of town densely populated by schools yet without any community space that is desperately needed.

If Gonzales and husband had any intention of benefiting from the sale, whether O’Hanlon was involved in the sale or not, but especially if he was, I wonder if the sale is even valid? Did people in the City know Gonzales was benefiting personally from the property not being purchased by the City for park/open space?

5) I don’t know about anyone else, but I found about Gonzales living there only very recently. Jerry Underdal has an active imagination, but I never saw anything on any list or conversation. A rental in that neighborhood would probably be market value $60,000/yr or more — those houses are all over 2500 sq ft. PASZ members who brought evidence of the previously mentioned malfeasance to the papers during the referendum with documentation were excoriated, while Gonzales’ claims were not even questioned. I’m sure if people knew about it, they would have provided that information too. Neighbors refrained from bringing up other evidence that PAHC admin trades favors in their housing in exchange for speaking at those rezoning events and other political purposes, because they didn’t want to hurt individuals, but I doubt anyone would have refrained in Gonzales’ case had they known Gonzales was doing same for herself.

The following is the first comment as posted by neighbor – vf:

Posted by neighbor
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 minutes ago

Oh, and PAHC spent a six-figure sum waging the referendum, where did that money come from and what could it have been better spent on if Ms. Gonzales didn’t have conflicts of interest in the mix? 

PAHC refused to consider an option in which the affordable housing was built closer to zoning, without the for-profit side which was 60% of the property, nor would it consider just building some regular houses along with the apartment and making the profit from the houses themselves for the apartment side. Interesting in hindsight.

The for-profit part was over 60% of the property. Indeed, one does wonder the intention of who would have profited, because during the so-called “summit”, a local developer pointed out that auctions of the individual house lots could be a way of bringing in the sums they were hoping for by the sale of the upzoned lots, making it unnecessary to upzone the for-profit side. The neighbors learned that PAHC was never willing to explore a lower density for-profit side. This puts a new spin on whether Gonzales and her husband would have profited, hence the resistence to work with the neighborhood on a whole host of issues that never made sense. Recall Larry Klein saying he had never seen so much “stonewalling” from an applicant?

Had the same per unit money been spent at Maybell as at 801 Alma, the property would have been built. This new information puts a new spin on why PAHC was always so resistant to working with neighbors who asked publicly for a working group to hash out a better plan (neighbors who a had a track record of saving the Terman School site through development and ensuring the Terman affordable apts were built, so it was not just blowing smoke).

The papers always took a biased interpretation in PAHC’s favor. Perhaps now the Weekly will consider revisiting their bias and assumptions, and slurs and negative biases against neighbors, and treating PAHC with a little less unquestioning deference?

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Thread Titled: Gone to the dogs: Stanford Shopping Center

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/22/gone-to-the-dogs-stanford-shopping-center

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
13 hours ago
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Readers should note that the Editors are freely removing comments which totally conform to their Terms of Use.

Be aware that what you are being allowed to read has been censored without explanation.

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Thread Titled: Architecture board member resigns after clay pot dispute

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/21/architecture-board-member-resigns-after-clay-pot-dispute

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
4 minutes ago

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

The Terms of Use state:

“You agree to be respectful of others, be truthful and be solely responsible for all postings you make.”

Please delete this entire topic.

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
17 minutes ago

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Is the Weekly Editor really proud of the role that they are playing in the vilification of this individual? Yes or No. If Yes then delete this comment.

Is this Forum really a “thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion” Yes or No. If Yes then delete this comment.

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
37 minutes ago

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
9 minutes ago
Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

Yes Maurico you ” wouldn’t have wasted more than minute on the entire matter, shrugged it off and moved on with my life.” but the totally anonymous posters on this site have been permitted to hound a person from a position of public service with zero accountability for their actions.

This is vigilantism at its most blatant worst.

This is certainly not ” a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion”.

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Posted by Hulkamania
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
4 minutes ago
Hulkamania is a registered user.

Is Catherine Ballantyne Palo Alto’s answer to Vanilla Ice?

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
3 hours ago

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

[Post removed.]

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Posted by Hulkamania
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
3 hours ago

Hulkamania is a registered user.

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Posted by Be Kind PA
a resident of JLS Middle School
2 minutes ago

Be Kind PA is a registered user.

@Alphonso: If it was a black or hispanic person from EPA this story wouldn’t have been written – this issue would have been resolved by the parties themselves (perhaps with police involvement, since the victim seems to care so much about a clay pot full of dirt), and would not warrant an article. If, somehow, the article was written anyway, I suspect it would be ignored.

@pono: No, it’s not OK for the story to remain published, but it’s hard to get a tabloid to retract a story, short of a lawsuit. If the “victim” had acted with a little compassion and treated this with all of the seriousness an old clay pot deserves, there wouldn’t have been any article.

As human beings, we should be more compassionate and forgiving of harmless mistakes, whatever their cause. The stupid pot is not worth what this family is being put through. This is far beyond reasonable “consequences” for the action in question, it IS cyberbullying.

A teacher of children should be capable of more compassion, if not for Ms. Ballantyne, then for her children. I’m glad my children do not attend Nixon so there is no risk of the “victim” being a role model for them.

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Posted by Be Kind PA
a resident of JLS Middle School
11 hours ago

Be Kind PA is a registered user.

@Alphonso: If it was a black or hispanic person from EPA this story wouldn’t have been written – this issue would have been resolved by the parties themselves (perhaps with police involvement, since the victim seems to care so much about a clay pot full of dirt), and would not warrant an article. If, somehow, the article was written anyway, I suspect it would be ignored.

@pono: No, it’s not OK for the story to remain published, but it’s hard to get a tabloid to retract a story, short of a lawsuit. If the “victim” had acted with a little compassion and treated this with all of the seriousness an old clay pot deserves, there wouldn’t have been any article.

As human beings, we should be more compassionate and forgiving of harmless mistakes, whatever their cause. The stupid pot is not worth what this family is being put through. This is far beyond reasonable “consequences” for the action in question, it IS cyberbullying.

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Posted by Golden Rule
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 hours ago

As someone who lost everything in a natural disaster and took some small comfort in planning where my landscape rocks would go — when they were subsequently stolen by someone who no doubt thought, Oh, the house is gone, we may as well take those cool rocks — even I don’t blame Ballantyne.

I can even once remember getting to the car at Target and realizing a book we probably (had to check the receipt) hadn’t paid for was underneath the toilet paper. One of us had to take the book back into the store and pay for it (made us late). What if someone else had followed us out and shamed us? Target would have lost our business over a book we would have paid for when we realized the error.

Patanroi is being a bully. I’m not usually one to go on about karma, but if there is such a thing as bad karma, that’s it in spades.

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Posted by Golden Rule
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 21, 2015 at 1:26 am

As someone who lost everything in a natural disaster and took some small comfort in planning where my landscape rocks would go — when they were subsequently stolen by someone who no doubt thought, Oh, the house is gone, we may as well take those cool rocks — even I don’t blame Ballantyne.

I can even once remember getting to the car at Target and realizing a book we probably (had to check the receipt) hadn’t paid for was underneath the toilet paper. One of us had to take the book back into the store and pay for it (made us late). What if someone else had followed us out and shamed us? Target would have lost our business over a book we would have paid for when we realized the error.

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Comment – Never a dull moment. Fascinating  thread… I am sorry I missed so many censored comments. Among those who were censored: Peter Carpenter, Anonymous22 and  Hmmm. Those are frequent commentators who  are usually as civil as it gets, and “dared”  to opine about the ongoing censoring. 

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Thread Titled: Editorial: Around teen well-being, the vocabulary changes

Link: http://paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/20/editorial-around-teen-well-being-the-vocabulary-changes

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Posted by Concerned Retiree
a resident of Midtown
55 minutes ago

One question which has been haunting me: Why don’t the many private schools and in particular, the parochial schools which also have strong academic reputations experience the same suicide rates?

What do they do differently? Or is it that they have fewer Asian families with an emphasis on succeed or die?

Not politically correct, perhaps, but certainly worth bringing into the discussion.

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Posted by Not so subtle

a resident of College Terrace
30 minutes ago
“Or is it that they have fewer Asian families with an emphasis on succeed or die?”If that’s the case, then why doesn’t Lynbrook or Monta Vista, schools with much higher Asian populations and similar academic emphasis, have the same issues?

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Posted by Concerned Retiree
a resident of Midtown
6 hours ago

One question which has been haunting me: Why don’t the many private schools and in particular, the parochial schools which also have strong academic reputations experience the same suicide rates?

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Posted by Not so subtle
a resident of College Terrace
5 hours ago

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Thread Titled: Stanford women remain near the top of the Pac-12

Link:  http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/15/stanford-women-remain-near-the-top-of-the-pac-12

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 Posted by Sir Bobbie
a resident of Old Palo Alto
8 minutes ago
Sir Bobbie is a registered user.
Mark Weiss I see nothing wrong with your comments and there’s no reason they should be hidden and you should be censored.

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Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Barron Park

1 hour ago

Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users.Click here to view comment. Why?

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Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Downtown North

58 minutes ago
Mark Weiss is a registered user.

Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users.Click here to view comment. Why?

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Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Barron Park53 minutes ago
Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users.Click here to view comment. Why?

I liked that the Stanford band played music by three groups that I once booked into Cubberley center: blink 182, Cake, and Squirrel Nut Zippers. I liked the Lili Thompson handshake video shown overhead. I would have gone to the bench earlier, in this Brazilian Blowout.

I clapped for the young lady from Mitty who scored for the opposition. Also, I met brother of UCLA assistant coach Newnan, a former Menlo College hoops and diamonds player, at Peets on Uni, which gave me the idea of going to the game.

I liked the tuba player with Hokosai Mt. Fuji series Wave augmented with gay pride colors, RTFO cap and read poetry during the actual action.

RTFO, sister!

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Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Downtown North

34 minutes ago
Mark Weiss is a registered user.

Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users.Click here to view comment. Why?

I am sure I am the only person who posts under his own name in this category. I’m certainly the most deleted or censored person on this site who posts under his own name. Bill Johnson does not know the First Amendment from a hole in his app. (You mean, like that?)

Comment – I logged in to check the removed comments.- vf. 

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Thread Titled: President Obama signs executive order on cybersecurity at Stanford

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/13/president-obama-signs-executive-order-on-cybersecurity-at-stanford

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Posted by Me
a resident of Midtown
0 minutes ago

Obama’s daughter just applied to Stanford. I wonder why he is putting effort and emphasis on subjects related to Stanford around the time they are sorting out applicants? Surely there is some sort of correlation, but this is evident.

Please delete common sensical comments and limit the users’ right to freedom of speech. Thanks.

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Posted by My Words Count
a resident of Midtown
16 minutes ago

So based on the last two posts, I’m assuming that Obama’s daughter is going to be accepted into Stanford without a doubt.

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Thread Titled: Palo Alto may study airplane noise

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/13/palo-alto-may-study-airplane-noise

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Posted by tired of your garbage
a resident of Old Palo Alto
53 minutes ago

To Good Idea
Can you put an earplug in one of your ears so the facts stop going right through your head?Peter Carpenter has presented plenty of objective data. The fact that you don’t like it is clear, but at this point please take it somewhere else and stop clogging up everyone’s screens.

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a resident of Old Palo Alto
1 hour ago

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
9 hours ago

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

It is interesting that the Editors remove any comment that notes that some posters have not done their homework before posting provably incorrect information.

Perhaps the Editors could themselves do a better job of providing accurate and complete information.

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a resident of Atherton
20 hours ago

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Posted by Peter Carpenter
a resident of Atherton
26 minutes ago

Peter Carpenter is a registered user.

“He is the president of The Atherton Civic Interest League, ”

Wrong.

“for fear of having the planes re-directed back over his home in Atherton.”

Plenty of planes fly over my home in Atherton and they are always at a lower altitude than those over Palo Alto.

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a resident of Atherton
3 hours ago

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Posted by resident
a resident of Downtown North
9 hours ago

Peter comes onto these boards and quiets the discussion every time. Who wants to banter back and forth with Peter? He is the president of The Atherton Civic Interest League, the organization that strives to improve the quality of life in Atherton. Of course he is going to make it look like Palo Alto has no issue with plane noise for fear of having the planes re-directed back over his home in Atherton.

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a resident of Downtown North
12 hours ago

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Thread Titled: Community, district organize forums to discuss student wellness

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/14/community-district-organize-forums-to-discuss-student-wellness

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Posted by @Deep throat and The Flaw InthePlan, from village fool
a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

@still hopeful — Thank you for your comment. I second, Sadly.

And – one of your censored comments above can be found along many other censored comments on a page I dedicated in my blog to the ongoing censoring.
I post comments Before & after (censoring).

Link – Web Link

Here’s to open discussion…

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Posted by Still hopeful
a resident of JLS Middle School
on Feb 14, 2015 at 9:32 am

I applaud these efforts, and I hope they are for more than just show. However, part of me is wondering why the district needs to wait for an event to hear us, when they could do a lot by just listening to us when we try to communicate in the course of school.

We complain about too much homework, and it changes nothing except to make teachers proactively blame everything else but the homework. That’s a recurring theme with this district, they seem so averse to accepting any responsibility for anything being less than perfect, they don’t know how to solve even the most germane problems, since obviously you can’t solve a problem you will do anything in your power never to admit to anything being wrong in the first place. Look at the language above, “This is not a school problem; it is a community problem.”

My kid only gets asthma from attending school, from pretty obvious conditions. We have personally made herculean efforts to get things fixed and the majority of the energy in their response has been retaliatory, cover up, pettiness, bad faith. It’s stressful to continue to deal with the health impacts, the costs, and even more stressful to deal with the district employees behaving badly. How is that not a school problem?

The most major source of stress in our household is not being able to set boundaries on the school day. How is that not a school problem? They get an F- for communication and trustworthiness, and while the grade for responsiveness on the environmental health issue ranges all the way from an A in some instances, if I had to average it the way they do the kids grades, I think they get about a D- or an F- overall…. (Can I give a G or an H?)

When is the last time anyone heard anyone in the district admit to or apologize for doing anything wrong? (Again, please no speciousness about liability, which is not incurred by taking responsibility and apologizing, it’s actually massively incurred by coverups and failure to take responsibility or apologizing.) Someone should explain to the district that modeling good behavior helps kids, that telling them to do as they say and not as they do is modeling what’s called “hypocrisy”. As is staging a public “conversation” with the public while failing to listen in the course of school. (Hint to district: watching people move their lips while having no intention of letting the content of what they are saying change you or impact what you do is not really “listening” in this context.)

I had high hopes for McGee, but unless he wakes up about the koolaid he’s drinking at 25 Churchill, by next year, things will be no better for any of this.

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Posted by Still hopeful
a resident of JLS Middle School
on Feb 14, 2015 at 9:32 am

I applaud these efforts, and I hope they are for more than just show. However, part of me is wondering why the district needs to wait for an event to hear us, when they could do a lot by just listening to us when we try to communicate in the course of school.

We complain about too much homework, and it changes nothing except to make teachers proactively blame everything else but the homework. That’s a recurring theme with this district, they seem so averse to accepting any responsibility for anything being less than perfect, they don’t know how to solve even the most germane problems, since obviously you can’t solve a problem you will do anything in your power never to admit to anything being wrong in the first place. Look at the language above, “This is not a school problem; it is a community problem.”

My kid only gets asthma from attending school, from pretty obvious conditions. We have personally made herculean efforts to get things fixed and the majority of the energy in their response has been retaliatory, cover up, pettiness, bad faith. It’s stressful to continue to deal with the health impacts, the costs, and even more stressful to deal with the district employees behaving badly. How is that not a school problem?

The most major source of stress in our household is not being able to set boundaries on the school day. How is that not a school problem? They get an F- for communication and trustworthiness, and while the grade for responsiveness on the environmental health issue ranges all the way from an A in some instances, if I had to average it the way they do the kids grades, I think they get about a D- or an F- overall…. (Can I give a G or an H?)

When is the last time anyone heard anyone in the district admit to or apologize for doing anything wrong? (Again, please no speciousness about liability, which is not incurred by taking responsibility and apologizing, it’s actually massively incurred by coverups and failure to take responsibility or apologizing.) Someone should explain to the district that modeling good behavior helps kids, that telling them to do as they say and not as they do is modeling what’s called “hypocrisy”. As is staging a public “conversation” with the public while failing to listen in the course of school. (Hint to district: watching people move their lips while having no intention of letting the content of what they are saying change you or impact what you do is not really “listening” in this context.)

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Thread titled: Palo Alto high schools prioritize culture change, achievement gap

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/11/palo-alto-high-schools-prioritize-culture-change-achievement-gap

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Posted by paly parent
a resident of Midtown
20 hours ago

I question Mr. Dauber’s assertion. Did I read incorrectly, perhaps? Is he claiming that PAUSD does *worse* for Latino and African American students than, what, most other districts statewide?? I just find such a claim hard to believe, given the numbers of families trying to rent here or join the Voluntary Transfer Program from outside our taxpayer base.
It may be a “3rd Rail” of political correctness, but is the school district really to hold the bag, the whole bag, for an achievement gap that often has so much to do with genetics and upbringing?

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Posted by paly parent
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 11, 2015 at 11:46 am

I question Mr. Dauber’s assertion. Did I read incorrectly, perhaps? Is he claiming that PAUSD does *worse* for Latino and African American students than, what, most other districts statewide?? I just find such a claim hard to believe, given the numbers of families trying to rent here or join the Voluntary Transfer Program from outside our taxpayer base.

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Thread Titled:  High school self-studies yield data on counseling, school climate

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/09/high-school-self-studies-yield-data-on-counseling-school-climate#comment_form

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
56 minutes ago

Am I the only one to wonder about – self study?
Can self study raise difficult questions? Can self study hear the fringe? the silent? those who need help? those who question the status quo?

I am reminded of the discussion about the ombudsman – Web Link

Here’s to checks and balances. All of them.

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Thread Titled:  College Terrace association faces uncertain future

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/02/08/college-terrace-association-faces-uncertain-future

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Posted by And then there is Adobe Meadow NA
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
1 hour ago

The AMNA President held a campaign event at his home for Nancy Shepherd. All residents living in the Adobe Meadow neighborhood were invited. The AMNA president had lawn signs in front of his home supporting Nancy Shepherd and Greg Scharff.

Since the Weekly won’t actually tell me what they are censoring, I’m trying to figure out if purely factual statements are somehow offensive.

I’ll follow up with the publisher later this week.

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Posted by And then there is Adobe Meadow NA
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
8 hours ago

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Thread Titled: Palo Alto school board to discuss student wellness, vote on parcel tax

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2015/01/27/palo-alto-school-board-to-discuss-student-wellness-vote-on-parcel-tax

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Posted by Fred
a resident of Barron Park
1 hour ago

@More Talk – to correct, Ms. Baten-Caswell points out how the rules work (as President, it’s her job) and invites Board comments on how to proceed. The Board comments and they proceed. Baten-Caswell points out that clapping (or booing) for some speakers and not others makes some speakers feel “unsafe” (also her job).

“McGee and the board should have credit and blame for all outcomes of all our kids.” Umm, I’d say they shouldn’t have credit or blame for any of the outcomes. Parents have far more influence, and of course the kids themselves. The Board doesn’t take credit – they hand out praise to students and cheerlead. Again, part of their job.

Hope you find the easy answers you are looking for!

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Posted by Fred
a resident of Barron Park
3 hours ago

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“McGee and the board should have credit and blame for all outcomes of all our kids.” Umm, I’d say they shouldn’t have credit or blame for any of the outcomes. Parents have far more influence, and of course the kids themselves. The Board doesn’t take credit – they hand out praise to students and cheerlead. Again, part of their job.

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Thread Titled: Caltrain reports fatality at Charleston Road

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/01/25/caltrain-reports-fatality-at-charleston-road

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Posted by Mary W. Shelley
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
22 minutes ago

Palo Alto, how ignorant thou are in thy pride of wisdom.

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a resident of Adobe-Meadows
1 hour ago

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Posted by Corcerned Palo Altan

a resident of Barron Park
4 minutes ago

The worst thing is that the guard did not see it, even though he was there. Only the cars who were waiting for the train to pass witnessed it, children were in those cars. Really traumatic experience for these kids. They will have a lot more chances of dying to suicide, at least that is what I read.

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Posted by Corcerned Palo Altan
a resident of Barron Park
14 minutes ago

The worst thing is that the guard did not see it, even though he was there. Only the cars who were waiting for the train to pass witnessed it, children were in those cars. Really traumatic experience for these kids. [Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled:  Palo Alto teen dies by suicide

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/01/24/palo-alto-teen-dies-by-suicide

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Posted by Gunn Dad
a resident of Gunn High School
1 minutes ago
Gunn Dad is a registered user.

Web Link quotes a leading researcher on suicide:

I’ve done studies on the quality of life in nations, and the quality of life in the different states in America. And regions with a higher quality of life have a higher suicide rate. Now, quality of life is more than wealth. The people who try and rate the quality of life use a variety of indices, health, education, culture, geography, all kinds of things. So they put more into it than just, you know, median family income, or individual per capita income. And what I’ve argued therefore is it seems to be an inevitable consequence of improving the quality of life. If your quality of life if poor, and it may be you’re unemployed, you’re an oppressed minority, whatever it might be, there’s a civil war going on, you know why you’re miserable. You know as the quality of life in a nation gets better and you are still depressed — well, why? Everybody else is enjoying themselves, getting good jobs, getting promotions, you know, buying fancy cars. Why are you still miserable? So, there’s no external cause to blame your misery upon, which means it’s more likely that you see it as some defect or stable trait in yourself. And therefore you’re going to be depressed and unhappy for the rest of your life.

Posted by resident3
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
24 minutes ago

resident3 is a registered user.

Fred,

We, in the school community are not “outsiders.” We are a classmate, a coach, a teacher, a parent’s friend, and this is hardly the time to debate cause, it’s triage.

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Posted by Gunn Dad
a resident of Gunn High School
9 hours ago

Gunn Dad is a registered user.

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Posted by resident3
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
6 hours ago

resident3 is a registered user.

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Posted by keluchnae
a resident of Palo Alto High School
3 minutes ago

keluchnae is a registered user.

Part of my comment was removed. This only goes to show that this town refuses to accept blame for what they have done to us, their children.

“Suicide continues while our parents value wealth and success over our lives.”

Do not erase the truth.

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Posted by iSez
a resident of Palo Alto High School
12 minutes ago

iSez is a registered user.

“We’re all in this together”? The students can join hands and sing Kumbaya, yet it won’t change the stress they face when they are up finishing their studying or homework long after their parents are in deep sleep. Or when they are so sleep-deprived that their brains cannot process the information in class. Annual teacher/course evaluations and grade distribution analysis is necessary for the BoE to start implementing changes. If the teachers don’t want to be told how to teach, they can find another school.

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Posted by keluchnae
a resident of Palo Alto High School
1 hour ago

keluchnae is a registered user.

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a resident of Palo Alto High School
1 hour ago

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Posted by peppered
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 hours ago
peppered is a registered user.

Paly doesn’t seem to have the same level of student stress as Gunn.
Why has Gunn not implemented the Advisory counseling model followed at Paly?

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a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
3 hours ago

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Posted by EC
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
8 minutes ago

EC is a registered user.

Don’t copy Paly blindly. I have friends at both schools, and the ones at Paly hate their school more, for being full of jerks. My friends at both schools are or have been depressed.

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Posted by EC
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
33 minutes ago

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Thread Titled:  Editorial: Caution on parcel tax

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/01/23/editorial-caution-on-parcel-tax

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Posted by angry as hell
a resident of Barron Park
8 minutes ago

@mental health
There is no plan believe me. Who has the plan? Charles Young? Future Dr. Brenda “slideshow” Carillo? How about Shashank Joshi who promised the psychological autopsies (sick sick way to describe the case studies but his term not mine) that we should have had years ago? Does he have the plan? How about PSN which is a pathetic joke? Where they sit around and have endless lunches and chat up whether they have any purpose and if so what it is? The suicide prevention crack team at PSN that loves PowerPoint but can’t figure out how to do anything useful. They have been in an existential crisis for years debating how to use the fire alarm while the building burned down around them. Do they have the plan?

Maybe Fagan Friedman has the plan. Maybe while the district was spending nearly a million of our money fighting with the federal government to preserve a bullying rape culture and to allow dating violence to continue, maybe while they were parading around giving Arne Duncan the finger they made a plan for how to deal with the tragic consequences or bullying and harassment.

Max is not Jesus. Everyone loves to say max will fix it. Max is going to somehow fix it all. Max does not have a magic wand. He is not dumbledore. He’s a bureaucrat who is managed by a board of useless room mothers other than Dauber. Dauber needs to get off the dime and do something to help the community and youth.

Address suicide or forget any more money.?

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Posted by angry as hell
a resident of Barron Park
19 hours ago

@mental health
There is no plan believe me. [Portion removed.]

Max is not Jesus. Everyone loves to say max will fix it. Max is going to somehow fix it all. Max does not have a magic wand. He is not dumbledore. [Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled: Protest on San Mateo Bridge caused crashes, CHP says

Link:  http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/01/22/protest-on-san-mateo-bridge-caused-crashes-chp-says

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Posted by Right winger
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood3 minutes ago
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Not sure why all references to the issue of the palestinian flag during the protest are being removed. Could be that since the comments have been running against it, the weekly is afraid of upsetting the delicate sensibilities of the bay area left wing.
I doubt that the publisher and editor of the weekly understand the situation in the middle east–that is way above their intellectual capacity.
ANyway, if it appears in the story, it should be open to comments and criticism from posters.

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Looks like the weekly is blocking all postings from the San Jose public library computers> What a joke!!!!
Really Dollar Bill Johnson?????

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Thread Titled:  To sleep, perchance to dream of change

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/01/16/guest-opinion-to-sleep-perchance-to-dream-of-change

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Posted by The Rent is Too Damn High
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
3 minutes ago

@data analysis

Let’s keep this simple. 45% of 10th graders are doing 3+ hours. They are supposed to be doing no more than 100 minutes, so they are doing almost double the limit. They aren’t in AP classes, largely. They are often in honors classes, which are shamefully not included in the limits and that could in theory account for at least some of the difference.

Why are honors and AP classes not covered by the policy? Simple: cowardice by admins and poor teaching.

Poor teachers believe that they have to assign a huge homework load because that’s what it means to have a “rigorous” class. They are also afraid of their students, because the students are by and large much smarter than they are. One thing for certain, the majority of these kids in the AP lanes are not destined to be high school teachers. At age 17 they are already a ton smarter than their teachers. The way that their insecure teachers maintain authority is through the ritualized dominance exerted by excessive forced work.

Cowardly admins are afraid of the “site-based control” shibboleth. They will do anything to avoid it. Plus most of them think that excessive homework is fine and they assigned it too when they were lousy teachers themselves.

Finally, there is a superstitious belief by admins that despite the research maybe the excessive homework could be driving these high scores and grades. What if it is? Who wants to be the principal or super who screwed up the secret sauce? It’s no skin off your nose if the kids are up all night, and racism keeps the belief that they are just little Asian homework machines just close enough for comfort.

These factors have combined to create a homework mania that is unique to our generation. It is a false belief system in which our children are being sacrificed and no one really has the incentive to stop it. Unless parents band together and say “we won’t pay the parcel tax unless you stop destroying our children with your ridiculous homework demands” and stop electing these potted plant board members who just sit there and don’t care what happens as long as they get to head off to the CSBA wing-ding and act important — unless parents and voters put a stop to this, then it will continue. Complaining is not political action.

Take action. We elected one board member, now we need 2 more who care about this issue. Defeat Heidi Emberling, she’s the most naive and ill-informed public official ever. She has done absolutely nothing other than go along with the OCR money pit. Instead, elect three new board members who will agree with Dauber about homework. Voila, we can fix the problem. That’s what democracy is about. That’s what’s on the agenda next and it’s not really too early to start planning for the 2016 election.

Who’s in?

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Posted by The Rent is Too Damn High
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
8 hours ago

@data analysis

Let’s keep this simple. 45% of 10th graders are doing 3+ hours. They are supposed to be doing no more than 100 minutes, so they are doing almost double the limit. They aren’t in AP classes, largely. They are often in honors classes, which are shamefully not included in the limits and that could in theory account for at least some of the difference.

Why are honors and AP classes not covered by the policy? Simple: cowardice by admins and poor teaching.

Poor teachers believe that they have to assign a huge homework load because that’s what it means to have a “rigorous” class. They are also afraid of their students, because the students are by and large much smarter than they are. One thing for certain, the majority of these kids in the AP lanes are not destined to be high school teachers. At age 17 they are already a ton smarter than their teachers. [Portion removed.]

Cowardly admins are afraid of the “site-based control” shibboleth. They will do anything to avoid it. [Portion removed.]

Finally, there is a superstitious belief by admins that despite the research maybe the excessive homework could be driving these high scores and grades. What if it is? Who wants to be the principal or super who screwed up the secret sauce? [Portion removed.]

These factors have combined to create a homework mania that is unique to our generation. It is a false belief system in which our children are being sacrificed and no one really has the incentive to stop it. [Portion removed.] Complaining is not political action.

Take action. We elected one board member, now we need 2 more who care about this issue. [Portion removed.] Voila, we can fix the problem. That’s what democracy is about. That’s what’s on the agenda next and it’s not really too early to start planning for the 2016 election.

Who’s in?

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Posted by DataAnalysis101
a resident of Community Center
23 minutes ago

This particular survey has been misread multiple times, in multiple threads, and is likely an outcome of either purposeful misreading, or just a bad survey construction.

Anyhow, @context above quotes a survey on homework incorrectly. The actual survey asks (pg 67):

” On an average school day, how much time do you spend doing homework outside of school?

None
Half hour or less
Between a half hour and an hour
1 hour
2 hours
3 hours or more ”

Quote. verbatim. No shizzle.

If you look at a typical 10th grader, the numbers reported are:

None 1 percent
Half hour or less 2 percent
Between a half hour and an hour 3 percent
1 hour 7 percent
2 hours 42 percent
3 hours or more 45 percent

Quote. Verbatim. No Shizzle.

Now this data has been misconstrued to mean many things.

However you choose to interpret this, it is pretty clear that 1 + 2 + 3 = 7 percent are spending less than one hour, as the words are pretty clear that this is “between a half an hour and an hour”, and lesser categories.

It is also pretty clear (to me) that 45% are spending 3 hours or more. That means that they are not spending between 2-3 hours, they are actually spending a minimum of 3 hours, or more. From the survey “3 hours or more”.

The great confusion comes in the interpretation of the middle of the survey. “1 hour 7% 2 hours 42%”

Either you can read this as 1-2 hours accounting for 7% of the students, and 2-3 hours picks up 42% of the students.

OR… (and I disagree with @context here), you could misconstrue this as: 1 hour ‘~or less’ 7%, and 2 hours ‘~or less’ 42%. This would sum up to 55% of 10th graders having less than 2 hours of homework.

I disagree with the ‘~or less’ interpretation.

Why is this second reading wrong? Well, the largest problem is that it leaves NO distribution between 2 hours and 3 hours. If 55% are 2hours or less, and we already know that 45% are 3 hours or more, then ZERO students spend between 2 hours and 3 hours. Which is absurd.

Furthermore, it is really not that hard to imagine a kid reading this question and guessing how they would interpret the question – the question shows a few buckets of time: 0, 0 – 1/2, 1/2 – 1, 1 – 2, 2 – 3, 3+.

How to really interpret this data:

I think the most obvious reading of the question is to assume our kids are brighter than @context, and they would therefore answer the “1 hour” survey option as 1-2 hours, and they would answer the “2 hours” survey question as 2-3 hours. Of course, they would answer the “3 or more hours” survey question as 3+ hours.

So from a rational perspective, 42% of our 10th graders are spending 2-3 hours on homework, and 45% are spending 3+ hours on homework.

That means that 87% of our 10th graders are spending beyond a 2-hr budget of time on homework.

There have been multiple attempts to misconstrue this data, but you can read it for yourself (pg 67) here: Web Link

And I think what you learn is that the people misquoting the data are doing so with purpose and malicious intent to skew the conversation. You should therefore discard all their other comments, as they are unreliable participants in an otherwise honest discussion.

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And I think what you learn is that the people misquoting the data are doing so with purpose and malicious intent to skew the conversation. You should therefore discard all their other comments, as they are unreliable participants in an otherwise honest discussion.

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Posted by Context
a resident of Palo Alto High School
5 minutes ago

Strange,

Below is a response posted in a homework thread Parent from JLS (above) started a few weeks ago which she entitled “What gives the school the right to give my child homework?” where she said that homework is unconstitutional. She mentions lawsuits in both threads, in this one saying that freeing her child from homework “will . . . probably require a court case”.

She says that her 7th grader’s homework load – often filling his non-school hours until 2 AM and precluding him from spending any time with friends “destroy[ing] any chance kids have of a normal social life” – puts “family life always at the mercy of [homework] that doesn’t allow you to … have control [of] the time [or to] get adequate sleep.”

Her source? Surveys. “If you read our surveys, our kids are spending so much time on homework, they don’t have normal social and home lives.”

Here is what those surveys JLS Parents is referring to said, pulled from the response to MIT/JLS Parent in the other thread:

Homework is part of the “Commitment to Learning” Developmental Asset measured in a survey that it has been giving around the country for 45 years.

2 hours or less of homework a night

JLS 7th graders – 89%

PAUSD 9th graders – 64%
10th graders- 55%
11th graders- 42%
12th graders- 48%

The percentage of students doing 2 hours or less a night goes down as students get older because many take honors and APs classes. Those classes say that “students who choose to enroll in Advanced Placement, Honors or accelerated courses should expect loads higher than [the homework policy limits for standard college prep classes] and should refer to class catalogs for homework expectations.”

Many, many, many PAUSD students can have their homework completed by dinner time.

Almost all of them – 90+% – graduate high school AND go to college.

I have no doubt that JLS’ son is struggling though. Many posted many suggestions of ways she could get him help that did not involve overturning the system or litigation.

After:

Posted by context
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
13 hours ago

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Posted by Parent
a resident of JLS Middle School
41 minutes ago

Strange,
I make no apologies for patiently explaining in the face of your boorish and aggressive behavior.

My analogy wasn’t just an analogy when it comes to keeping kids safe. There are respected organizations that discuss the relationship between kids learning how to set boundaries in all arenas of life as a way to help protect them from harassment:
Web Link

For those who are interested, the above article, “Sometimes the People Kids Love Have Problems” from Kidpower.org talks about giving children tools for “staying emotionally and physically safe without overwhelming them with Unnecessarily upsetting information. Children can learn to protect themselves from most safety problems … if they practice these skilss. Setting powerful, respectful, appropriate boundaries with peers and adults they know…”

Here are some more helpful links relevant to this discussion:
Web Link
Web Link
Web Link

Kidpower has a safety first commitment: “I WILL put the safety and well-being of myself and others ahead of anyone’s embarrassment, inconvenience or offense, including my own.”

And yours.

It is the height of hypocrisy for the schools to tell parents to set boundaries around bedtime when they refuse to set the more major boundary between school and home life. It’s like the City telling parents to make their kids wear helmets but insisting everyone bicycle to school down Alma and El Camino in traffic with no bike lanes.

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Posted by Parent
a resident of JLS Middle School
on Jan 18, 2015 at 10:22 pm

Strange,
[Portion removed.]

My analogy wasn’t just an analogy when it comes to keeping kids safe. There are respected organizations that discuss the relationship between kids learning how to set boundaries in all arenas of life as a way to help protect them from harassment:
Web Link

For those who are interested, the above article, “Sometimes the People Kids Love Have Problems” from Kidpower.org talks about giving children tools for “staying emotionally and physically safe without overwhelming them with Unnecessarily upsetting information. Children can learn to protect themselves from most safety problems … if they practice these skilss. Setting powerful, respectful, appropriate boundaries with peers and adults they know…”

Here are some more helpful links relevant to this discussion:
Web Link
Web Link
Web Link

Kidpower has a safety first commitment: “I WILL put the safety and well-being of myself and others ahead of anyone’s embarrassment, inconvenience or offense, including my own.”

And yours.

It is the height of hypocrisy for the schools to tell parents to set boundaries around bedtime when they refuse to set the more major boundary between school and home life. It’s like the City telling parents to make their kids wear helmets but insisting everyone bicycle to school down Alma and El Camino in traffic with no bike lanes.

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Posted by strange
a resident of Barron Park
2 hours ago

You lost control of your analogy as soon as you posted it.

Your analogy is as ill-advised as the person who titled this article. How could someone be so short-sighted as to use a quote where Hamlet contemplates suicide where Gunn high-school students are involved?

Similarly it is your boorish behavior to use an inappropriate sexual harassment analogy where children are involved. You now see where you analogy leads. This isn’t the first time. I doubt you will apologize but would you please stop doing it.

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Posted by strange
a resident of Barron Park
on Jan 18, 2015 at 8:16 pm

You lost control of your analogy as soon as you posted it.

Your analogy is as ill-advised as the person who titled this article. How could someone be so short-sighted as to use a quote where Hamlet contemplates suicide where Gunn high-school students are involved?

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Thread Titled: Suspected burglar bitten by K-9, arrested

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/01/14/suspected-burglar-bitten-by-k-9-arrested-in-palo-alto

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Posted by Stop the Trolls
a resident of Mountain View
2 minutes ago

Looks like this site’s semi-resident troll, who changes identities and neighborhoods in a flash, has shown itself here again.

Never mind the anti-police and anti-authority babble this troll specializes in — the disjointed, rambling tone of this character show that this person really has issues. And not with the police, either.

After:

Posted by Stop the Trolls
a resident of Mountain View
4 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled:  Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Speech

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/01/07/freedom-of-the-press-and-freedom-of-speech

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Posted by Je Suis Portion Removed
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
2 hours ago

Ah, the irony to censor an article or opinion piece on this!

Comment:  I missed Je Suis’ removed portion. Thank you – ‘ Je Suis Portion Removed’  for letting us know. Irony  presents itself  in so many places, possibly more accurately the irony is missed in so many places because of the censorship. While I did not conduct a scientific research, I suspect that the censor “treated” more comments for mentioning the censoring than for actually being  really inappropriate.

Here is another ironic thread –  http://www.paloaltoonline.com/print/story/2014/08/08/got-empathy

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Thread Titled: Police: Man who tried to run over officers nabbed after late-night manhunt

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/28/police-man-who-tried-to-run-over-officers-nabbed-after-late-night-manhunt

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Posted by Juan EPA
a resident of East Palo Alto
1 hour ago

Juan EPA is a registered user.

First off I would say that my comments are not off topic and are relevant as I refer to the story’s subject, Mr. Angulo, being arrested for assault with a deadly weapon, (a vehicle), and compare that to another person, myself, also being assaulted with a deadly weapon, (a vehicle), and then I refer to how Mr. Angulo was most likely identified as being a crook through the well known practice of profiling, both racial and economic which led to his arrest.

Please explain how my comments are off topic? You now have my email address.

FROM EARLIER POST:

“I’ll try again.

The police profile all the time and it works at catching a lot of bad guys but like using large fishing nets this practice also rounds up a lot of law abiding citizens as well. I not only know this from personal experience but a former Palo Alto Police Officer admitted this practice to me upon one of my complaints to the police.

The PAPD most likely profiled the crook in this story first and then after profiling him they learned that the vehicle was stolen.

This practice inculcates a sense of acceptable collateral damage, (the violation of the Constitution), in order to apprehend crooks. This creates a disparity in enforcing the law between the wealthy and the poor, between those of light colored skin and those of dark colored skin and actually fosters and promotes discriminatory attitudes and actions.

This inherent discrimination exhibited itself when a white person intentionally tried to run me, a brown person, down with their late model BMW, a felony, but the Palo Alto Police did nothing despite the overwhelming evidence of what this person did.

(Wherever there is fishing, there is bycatch—the incidental capture of non-target species such as dolphins, marine turtles and seabirds. Thousands of miles of nets and lines are set in the world’s oceans each day. Modern fishing gear, often undetectable by sight and extremely strong, is very efficient at catching the desired fish species—as well as anything else in its path.)”
Web Link

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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto
1 hour ago

Hmmm is a registered user.

Juan, thank you for reposting your comment. I am very sorry for what you experienced, and that the police weren’t helpful to you.

I don’t think, however, in this case, that profiling was at work. Since the car had been reported stolen, the officers noticed that it matched the info about the stolen car, which is why they stopped him. It was late at night, and traffic was minimal, making it easier to notice the car. I’ve been around LEOs enough to know that they do try to pay attention to stolen vehicle descriptions, and respond accordingly when one is spotted.

I have witnessed real racial profiling on the Peninsula, and it’s truly awful. My heart goes out to you.

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Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
1 hours ago

Online Name is a registered user.

How is my description of police CONSISTENTLY pulling over people driving the oldest cars off topic? Those people are often minorities.

Are we trying to pretend that everything’s perfect here in Palo Alto? I don’t get how reporting something we’ve seen repeatedly is off topic!

A friend who was born and raised in Palo Alto married a black guy and he was stopped so often they finally got disgusted and moved. They were both middle aged attorneys.

Off topic? You decide.

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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto
5 hours ago

Hmmm is a registered user.

[Post removed; off topic.]

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Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
5 hours ago

Online Name is a registered user.

[Post removed; off topic.]

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Sorry, but further commenting on this topic has been closed.

Comment – It seems that ‘Juan EPA” disappeared without a trace.  I usually post the comments which  I happen to notice before being removed (and after).  Many other comments were removed.

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Thread Titled: The 10 most-viewed stories in 2014

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/26/the-10-most-viewed-stories-in-2014#comment_form

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Posted by viillage fooooll
a resident of another community

1 minutes ago

Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registeredusers. Click here to view comment. Why?

After:

1.

I logged in – here is my comment:

@Resident- I second. This comment will be gone fast, I hope you’ll see it.

The interesting topic would be – why are threads suddenly restricted only to registered users, or even locked completely? Why some comments are being removed without seemingly violating the terms of use?

Here are just few recent samples:

1.Thread Titled: Fourteen plead not guilty to gang indictments
Link: Web Link
This thread locked completely.

2.Thread Titled: Stanford fraternity housing suspended due to sexual harassment concerns
link: Web Link
This thread was restricted to those who login.

3.Thread Titled: New committee addresses Palo Alto Unified’s achievement gap
link: Web Link
This thread was locked completely.

The above are just few samples. I have listed many specific samples on my blog, on a page I dedicated to the ongoing censoring. I post comments Before & After being censored. I think that my collection of censored comments/portions of comments presents many comments that were removed without seemingly violating the terms of use, except for the moderator choice.

Here is a link to my “Before & After” page: Web Link

2.

No trace now to the fact I posted.

Comment: I realized short time ago that my home IP address is probably used to prevent my postings. I used public Wi-Fi to post this comment, I also tried to use another random name which was identified. It is my understanding that my laptop can be identified. It is also my understanding that those practices are legal. 

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Thread Titled: Gunn student, former teacher call for more balanced academic culture

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/11/19/save-the-2008-gunn-student-former-teacher-call-for-more-balanced-academic-culture

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Posted by Name hidden
a resident of East Palo Alto25 minutes ago
Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?

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Posted by Name hidden
a resident of East Palo Alto23 minutes ago
Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?

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Posted by too much
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
9 minutes ago

This seems like excessive censorship of VF. He/she is not posting anything that controversial. I understand you are clearly in some kind of conflict, but BJ, doesn’t this strike you as a bit much? It does me. Let it go. what does it matter.

After:

All gone.

Comment –  The above on 12/27/14. “Name hidden” was me. My submitted postings were transformed to the “Due to repeated… ” and my name was hidden.  The Weekly did not perfect the handling of criminals such as me. “too much” could see that I posted, since my name was listed on the Town Square list of subjects.  I posted more than once to be sure – my IP address is probably recognized by big brother.

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Posted by You Should Realize
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
1 hour ago

There are plenty of people who look at Gunn and Paly as negatives when it comes to living in Palo Alto. More young families are choosing other towns to raise their kids in, specifically because of the high schools.

To each their own though. Remember to tip your suicide preventing rr crossing guards if you have any in your community.

After:

Posted by You Should Realize
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
3 hours ago

There are plenty of people who look at Gunn and Paly as negatives when it comes to living in Palo Alto. More young families are choosing other towns to raise their kids in, specifically because of the high schools.

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Thread Titled: School Board searching for ideas

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/06/20/school-board-searching-for-ideas

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
on Dec 30, 2013 at 4:20 pm

village fool is a registered user.

@Uncle – I asked you back in June (above) how one reformer in PAUSD board can make any difference.

None of us could have imagined only last June the “feasibility” of secret PAUSD Board meetings set to check the feasibility of challenging the OCR “jurisdiction” etc. Those meeting were unveiled. Coincidentally.

Now I know how one member could have made a difference. Thank you.
Wishing you a Happy New year, and better year for all.

(This thread was locked, already, then.)

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
14 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.

@Uncle –
Long time ago you wrote above:
“… PAUSD is evidently content with being the community that pays guards to sit by its tracks. Have at it.”

Wishing you a Happy New year, and a better year for all!

After:

Both comments vanished.

Comment – I posted the second  comment  today, 12/25/14.  The first comment   which was posted on 12/30/13 – a year ago, was there. It was the last comment of the thread.  The 2013 comment was removed with the comment I posted today. 

The article which deals with the donations for the track’s guards reminded me of  “uncle”‘s comment.   My comments  disappeared fast,  no  trace was left.  I cannot understand how this comment  violated the terms of use.  Obviously, the 2013 comment was OK until today. 

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Thread Titled:  Changing the conversation: Who, or what, is Palo Alto Forward?

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/12/changing-the-conversation-who-or-what-is-palo-alto-forward

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Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Downtown North
1 hour ago

Mark Weiss is a registered user.

How is this not fair political comment, other than the fact that you would not advise such in your Editorial page?

Palo Alto Forward members are the policy equivalent to Ring Girls at a boxing match: they look good, their message is oversimplified, they take their orders from somebody else behind the scene and they are basically clueless.

Yet five of them are now part of leadership!

What about: rent control.

Why do you engage in such Leninist tactics with your censorship?

And I still maintain, whether I’ve expressed this here, in my own blog or in numerous private conversations — and I made a related point about your coverage of Gunn at the recent school board meeting — not only do you under-cover my activities but you seem to sit around and scheme up ways to distort my work. You are clearly more Leninist than Jeffersonian.

And I am far from alone in sensing this.

You jumped the shark so to speak when you moved to 450 Cambridge and became real estate investors first and “journalists” loosely defined second.

After:

Posted by Mark Weiss
a resident of Downtown North
10 hours ago

Mark Weiss is a registered user.

[Post removed.]

Comment: This post was removed on 12/22/14.  Count your blessings, a trace was left. ..

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Thread Titled: Minority students speak to challenges they face in Palo Alto school district

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/17/minority-students-speak-to-challenges-they-face-in-palo-alto-school-district

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Posted by iSez
a resident of Palo Alto High School
17 minutes ago
iSez is a registered user.

This is not a race issue. The minority students who come from families who are similar to Palo Alto families do fine in PAUSD. The other minority students who attend PAUSD who have family environments that are not similar to Palo Alto families (ie: families who can’t help with homework, parents without college education, or who don’t prioritize academics) are the ones who struggle. Palo Alto has 80% (of age 25+) having earned a bachelor’s degree, with 50% who have a graduate or professional degree. It’s not easy for those who have parents with no college education to compete with Palo Alto students who can just turn to their parents for help or have tutors. Geez, PAUSD is difficult enough for our students who HAVE tutors and parental help.

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Posted by iSez
a resident of Palo Alto High School
13 hours ago

iSez is a registered user.

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
1 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.

Dear Frustrated mom,

I am so sorry. no real surprises here.
While I doubt you’ll see my comment, I decided to login again and try to post my following comment which was removed, fast:

“….
Hardy said she noticed it in elementary school as social groups formed along racial lines, but increasingly in middle school when she said girls of color would be punished for violating dress code more than other students. Even if she, for example, was wearing the same length shorts as a white student, she would be the one reprimanded for it.
…”

Thank you Ms. Hardy!

I have posted the following question several times in various ways since the famous 2009 Gunn egg wars:

May I suggest to try to imagine, for example, a hypothetical situation: What would be consequences faced by Minorities – African American/Hispanic/Tongan, from EPA, studying in Palo Alto High if they were the ones caught damaging Gunn’s new track throwing eggs, part of a “group activity tradition”?
Would anyone argue that consequences were too harsh?”

I have no doubt that should minorities have practiced egg wars on Gunn’s track in 2009 no one would have questioned the consequences. I also have no doubt that minorities students are well aware of that.

After:

Gone, it took less than 5 minutes.  I posted on Sunday 12/21/14. This is a rehash of the comments i posted below. ‘Frustrated mom”s comment had me try to post again. I cannot figure out how this comment violates the terms of use.

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Before:

“….
Hardy said she noticed it in elementary school as social groups formed along racial lines, but increasingly in middle school when she said girls of color would be punished for violating dress code more than other students. Even if she, for example, was wearing the same length shorts as a white student, she would be the one reprimanded for it.
…”

Thank you Ms. Hardy!

I have posted the following question several times in various ways since the famous 2009 Gunn egg wars:

May I suggest to try to imagine, for example, a hypothetical situation: What would be consequences faced by Minorities – African American/Hispanic/Tongan, from EPA, studying in Palo Alto High if they were the ones caught damaging Gunn’s new track throwing eggs, part of a “group activity tradition”?
Would anyone argue that consequences were too harsh?”

I have no doubt that should minorities have practiced egg wars on Gunn’s track in 2009 no one would have questioned the consequences. I also have no doubt that minorities students are well aware of that.

I posted the above comment earlier today. The comment disappeared fast , no trace was left to the fact that I posted. This is my third  try.

“Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one” A.J. Liebling

After:

Posted by Name hidden
a resident of another community

0 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?

Comment – This comment also vanished. I cannot understand how I violated the terms of use. I never saw this type of comment before, I am guessing it is new . it would make sense to remove my name if name is “hidden”. Lots of ways to improve censoring.

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Before:

Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.

“….
Hardy said she noticed it in elementary school as social groups formed along racial lines, but increasingly in middle school when she said girls of color would be punished for violating dress code more than other students. Even if she, for example, was wearing the same length shorts as a white student, she would be the one reprimanded for it.
…”

Thank you Ms. Hardy!

I have posted the following question several times in various ways since the famous 2009 Gunn egg wars:

May I suggest to try to imagine, for example, a hypothetical situation: What would be consequences faced by Minorities – African American/Hispanic/Tongan, from EPA, studying in Palo Alto High if they were the ones caught damaging Gunn’s new track throwing eggs, part of a “group activity tradition”?
Would anyone argue that consequences were too harsh?”

I have no doubt that should minorities have practiced egg wars on Gunn’s track in 2009 no one would have questioned the consequences. I also have no doubt that minorities students are well aware of that.

After:

Gone, fast. I posted this comment on Friday, Dec 19th, 2014.

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Thread Titled: What gives the school the right to give my child homework?

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/18/what-gives-the-school-the-right-to-give-my-child-homework

Before:

Posted by parent
a resident of Escondido School

20 minutes ago
Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users who are logged in. Register or Log inWhy?

After:

Gone. Comment:  This comment disappeared while I signed in  to view it.  Meaning – I loaded the thread, the fact the comment was removed was visible, after less than a minute that took me to sign in ,  Parent  from Escondido vanished. 

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Posted by village foool
a resident of another community
1 hour ago

@TheSortingHat–

you wrote: “… And I have not met a single one willing to confront the worst behaviors of their peers. That is what I mean by no self respect as a profession.”

You go back to the teachers’ silence, a very important issue. Although it is not the main topic of the is thread, I believe that the teachers’ silence is not disconnected from all issues relating to education.

“teachers too” ended her/his comment here (Web Link) saying:

“… they are the people we pay to care for our kids, and they are all part of the problem. Until they recognize that and stop playing the game of silence, then only then will we be on the way to improvement.”

After:

Gone, vanished. I posted this comment on 12/22/14

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Posted by villlage fool
a resident of another community
30 minutes ago

@Parent —

While this comment may seem of topic, I believe that the fact that and my comments vanish without a trace is not disconnected from the issues you raise here. The tip of the iceberg.

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
19 minutes ago

@Parent —

Thank you for asking!

“The less there is to justify a traditional custom, the harder it is to get rid of it” ― Mark Twain

After:

Gone, no trace. I posted the comment again – it disappeared  fast. I have read the terms of use, I have no clue why my comment disappeared this way. While I cannot answer  Parent’s question as to the legality of homework, I happen to think  that Twain’s quote is relevant. 

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Posted by Problem solved
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
52 minutes ago

Ha ha… I get an F. As if I cared!

The incredible thing in this town is that parents are now demanding no homework at all and all As for their precious children. As if UC Berkeley, Stanford or Harvard will take all 1000 graduating PA seniors if such a scheme is implemented.

Dream on.

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Posted by I had to; they have to
a resident of Old Palo Alto

40 minutes ago
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Posted by Parent
a resident of JLS Middle School
27 minutes ago

@ Problem

You really don’t care, so why bother to be such a troll here? Maybe you could sit down and let others who want to actually communicate have a turn.

I specifically asked not to get into a conversation about homework policies. I just want to know the legality of it.

Your wrote:
“The incredible thing in this town is that parents are now demanding no homework at all and all As for their precious children. As if UC Berkeley, Stanford or Harvard will take all 1000 graduating PA seniors if such a scheme is implemented.”

You don’t think children are precious? I do. I think our district does too, at least the mission seems to be to care about the wellbeing of children and optimize the education of all children, not just those who thrive on intense homework.

I see no evidence of your sweeping claim. I personally would prefer no homework, but I would never want to take that kind of experience away from the half who want it. I was pretty clear about that above. (You don’t care, but I’m assuming you read?) In its place, I would not suggest a program lacking in rigor. I would personally prefer to see core learning take place in a more self-paced, accelerated, and less time-consuming way, so that there is more time for and a focus on higher-level and project-based learning. As well as time for kids to have a social life, have family time, sleep, go to the doctor, etc.

Are you saying you don’t think public school could do this for anyone? I have a lot more faith in schools, especially in our local schools.

I read a statistic that over three times the percentage of homeschool applications are accepted at the illustrious schools as regular applications, including at Stanford. At the regional science fair this year, homeschoolers represented a disproportionately high percentage of winners. Many of them would love to reintegrate with public schools. They’re innovators — we could be learning from them.

That said, I’d like to restate my purpose for this post:

What is the legal basis for homework? We are no longer 19th century factory workers whose children need to be kept busy round the clock. Why does the state have a right to my child’s focus and time round the clock during the school year? Is this practice just something we have all accepted, or is there a legal basis for the state to demand this in order for my child to receive a high-quality education?

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Posted by Problem solved
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Dec 18, 2014 at 7:37 pm

[Post removed.]

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I logged in, here ‘I had to; they have to’ removed comment:

We’ve always done it this way.

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Posted by Parent
a resident of JLS Middle School
on Dec 18, 2014 at 8:02 pm

@ Problem
[Portion removed.]

Your wrote:
“The incredible thing in this town is that parents are now demanding no homework at all and all As for their precious children. As if UC Berkeley, Stanford or Harvard will take all 1000 graduating PA seniors if such a scheme is implemented.”

You don’t think children are precious? I do. I think our district does too, at least the mission seems to be to care about the wellbeing of children and optimize the education of all children, not just those who thrive on intense homework.

I see no evidence of your sweeping claim. I personally would prefer no homework, but I would never want to take that kind of experience away from the half who want it. I was pretty clear about that above. (You don’t care, but I’m assuming you read?) In its place, I would not suggest a program lacking in rigor. I would personally prefer to see core learning take place in a more self-paced, accelerated, and less time-consuming way, so that there is more time for and a focus on higher-level and project-based learning. As well as time for kids to have a social life, have family time, sleep, go to the doctor, etc.

Are you saying you don’t think public school could do this for anyone? I have a lot more faith in schools, especially in our local schools.

I read a statistic that over three times the percentage of homeschool applications are accepted at the illustrious schools as regular applications, including at Stanford. At the regional science fair this year, homeschoolers represented a disproportionately high percentage of winners. Many of them would love to reintegrate with public schools. They’re innovators — we could be learning from them.

That said, I’d like to restate my purpose for this post:

What is the legal basis for homework? We are no longer 19th century factory workers whose children need to be kept busy round the clock. Why does the state have a right to my child’s focus and time round the clock during the school year? Is this practice just something we have all accepted, or is there a legal basis for the state to demand this in order for my child to receive a high-quality education?

 Comment:

The [Portion removed.] was: “… You really don’t care, so why bother to be such a troll here? Maybe you could sit down and let others who want to actually communicate have a turn.

I specifically asked not to get into a conversation about homework policies. I just want to know the legality of it.”

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Thread Titled: Stanford fraternity housing suspended due to sexual harassment concerns

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/13/stanford-fraternity-housing-suspended-due-to-sexual-harassment-concerns

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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
32 minutes ago
George Orwell is a registered user.

Well done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

Luckily this is the new world. The following was written long time ago about England:
“…The sinister fact about literary censorship in England is that it is largely voluntary.
Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news — things which on their own merits would get the big headlines-being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact.
So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics….” G. Orwell.

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
17 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

@Hulkamania–

Your removed comment along many other censored comments can be found on a page I dedicated in my blog to the ongoing censoring. I post comments Before & after being censored.
link – Web Link

After:

Both comments gone. I re-posted my comment telling ‘Hulkamania’ that his/her removed comment can be found here. Below.

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Before:

Posted by Hulkamania
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
53 minutes ago

Hulkamania is a registered user.

Is Doug Neidermeyer a member of SAE?

After:

Posted by Hulkamania
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
11 hours ago

Hulkamania is a registered user.

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Thread Titled: Editorial: Win, lose or tie?

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/12/editorial-win-lose-or-tie

Before:

Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
6 hours ago

@More nadirs to come –

Do you think that nadir is the appropriate word to use PAUSD wise?
It is my understanding that Nadir cannot be used to describe occurrences that happen quite often.

I copied the definition:

na·dir
ˈnādər,ˈnādir/Submit
noun
the lowest point in the fortunes of a person or organization.
“they had reached the nadir of their sufferings”
synonyms: lowest point, lowest level, all-time low, bottom, rock-bottom; informalpits
“the nadir of his career”
antonyms: zenith
ASTRONOMY
the point on the celestial sphere directly below an observer.

After:

Gone. Vanished.

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Before:

Posted by More nadirs to come
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
30 minutes ago

Tabitha Hurley doesn’t get $150,000. She is much cheaper, probably only grosses $139,000. She should have one of her supporters from above chastise you for your hyperbole. Hurley has an impossible job, to make us perceive that the school board can do anything to improve our schools. I once called the June, 2012 board the worst ever, but I was wrong, the June, 2014 board sank to a new low. Next bit of advice for Hurley: tell Heidi Emberling to stop calling herself a journalist. It’s embarassing. And thank you, other poster above for letting us know that Mountain View Whisman is taking Skelly as Interim Superintendent. That should turn out well, and it’s good that he has found another position after not getting a post in the SCCOE. But it also means one less opportunity for Associate Superintdent Charles Young, who has been conspicuously absent from the Weekly Communication to the Board since deleting his Twitter account. What is going on at 25 Churchill? Perhaps Hurley should get $150,000.

After:

Posted by More nadirs to come
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 12, 2014 at 9:13 pm

[Post removed.]

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Posted by parent
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 minutes ago

“They are not spending money padding their image. They are spending money dealing with the bunker mentality that has been created within the district.”

Have you ever met anyone who had low ethical standards when it came to telling the truth, and witnessed what pretzels they twist themselves into when they get caught? They don’t know how to apologize and move on. If they get pressed for the truth, is putting a spotlight on the person telling the truth, or even getting them to stop digging in regardless really the solution, especially if those people have responsibility for children’s lives?

Have you ever tried working with people like that, especially when they hold a lot of power? Walk a mile in some of these parents’ shoes before you start making ridiculous accusations about people not trying to work with the district. If McGee really wanted to stop the bunker mentality, he should have justifiably cleared out some of the poor performers and brought in his own team. Maybe now that Skelly is in Mtn Vw, he can unload some of them there.

After:

Posted by parent
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 hours ago

“They are not spending money padding their image. They are spending money dealing with the bunker mentality that has been created within the district.”

Have you ever met anyone who had low ethical standards when it came to telling the truth, and witnessed what pretzels they twist themselves into when they get caught? They don’t know how to apologize and move on. If they get pressed for the truth, is putting a spotlight on the person telling the truth, or even getting them to stop digging in regardless really the solution, especially if those people have responsibility for children’s lives?

Have you ever tried working with people like that, especially when they hold a lot of power? Walk a mile in some of these parents’ shoes before you start making [portion removed] accusations about people not trying to work with the district. If McGee really wanted to stop the bunker mentality, he should have justifiably cleared out some of the poor performers and brought in his own team. [Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled:  MV Whisman taps former Palo Alto head as interim superintendent

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/12/mv-whisman-taps-former-palo-alto-head-as-interim-superintendent

Before:

Posted by oh my! 
a resident of Downtown North
24 minutes ago
Does this mean that Ken Dauber will start showing up at the podium of the Mountain View Whisman school board meetings? Could you imagine Mr. Skelly’s face if Ken did show up?

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Posted by or the other way around
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 minutes ago

If Dr. SKelly is staying in Palo Alto, and commuting to Mountain View it could work the other way around and he could show up at PAUSD meetings :)

After:

Posted by oh my!
a resident of Downtown North
1 hour ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by or the other way around
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
58 minutes ago

[Post removed.]

And – thread restricted, available only for those who login.  Restricting the thread proved to stifle the discussion.

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Thread Titled:  Fourteen plead not guilty to gang indictments

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Before:

Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
8 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.
@A Noun Ea Mus —
Your removed comment along many other censored comments can be found on a page I dedicated in my blog to the ongoing censoring. I post comments Before & after being censored.
link – Web Link
 .

After:

Sorry, but further commenting on this topic has been closed.

Comment: The thread was locked, completely, shortly after I posted the comment above. It goes without saying  that my above comment disappeared without a trace. I posted this comment on 12/11/14.

This was the fait of another thread dealing with the committee appointed to address the Achievement Gap (below). Both threads were closed within an hour.

Thou should not mention the ongoing censoring. 

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Posted by A Noun Ea Mus
a resident of Professorville
9 hours ago

And Dick Cheney walks. We are no longer a nation of laws.
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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
3 minutes ago

George Orwell is a registered user.Well done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!The following was written long long time ago about England:
“…The sinister fact about literary censorship in England is that it is largely voluntary.
Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban.
Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news — things which on their own merits would get the big headlines-being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact.
So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics….” G. Orwell.

 After:

Posted by A Noun Ea Mus
a resident of Professorville
10 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled:  Seeing math as ‘a whole gorgeous piece of art

link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2012/08/10/seeing-math-as-a-whole-gorgeous-piece-of-art

Before:

Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
5 minutes ago

@Moderator—-

Here’s to rules of civility.
George Washington’s rules of civility and decent behavior (link – Web Link):

Rule 46th:
“Take all Admonitions thankfully in what Time or Place Soever given but afterwards not being culpable take a Time & Place convenient to let him him know it that gave them.”
and simple English:
If you are corrected, take it without argument. If you were wrongly judged, correct it later.

The comment I posted here yesterday disappeared without a trace. As it turns out, you actually followed my suggestion and removed the irrelevant comment I mentioned.

I doubt G. Washington would have recommended to delete my comment without leaving any trace, without appropriately acknowledging, and maybe, even, thanking me.
That is OK.

You are very welcome!

After:

Gone. I posted this comment on Dec 9th, 2014.

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Before:

Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
55 minutes ago

@Moderator—

May I suggest that the post from “Veddy Eenteresting” be removed as it relates to the personal affairs of a teacher and is irrelevant to the issues discussed on this thread. I think that you should exercise your censoring abilities when it comes to personal info about kids and adults who are not public figures.

I must admit that I cannot understand the ethics guiding your censoring. While you consistently delete any reference to the fact that you are censoring, you left “Veddy Eenteresting’s” irrelevant comment intact. Your “editing” practices triggered me to start a blog, a place where I and my comments cannot be deleted.

I have also noticed the way you treat “George Orwell”. Mr. Orwell’s compliments to you for restricting threads also magically disappear without a trace. Orwell’s quotes (which are included in literature, educational materials and in public libraries around the world) vanish from Palo Alto Online. Orwellian.

After:

Gone, vanish. I posted the above comment on Dec 8th, 2014.

“Veddy Eenteresting” post was removed. I am not posting it here as I suggested to remove it.  Thank you, village fool, would have been quite appropriate.  Palo Alto online as the role model of civility.

Never mind. You are most welcome!

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Thread Titled: Mysterious school policy proposal becomes hot potato

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/05/palo-alto-mysterious-policy-proposal-becomes-hot-potato#comment_form

Before:

Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
1 hour ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Dear Editor,

This is a followup. I have posted the following comment several times. The comment disappeared leaving no indication that I ever posted. I am trying yet, again.

I happen to be very particular about censoring of my own writing. My opinions about censoring are well known. High school students used to read my famous books. I do not know if they still do.

Clearly, you do not appreciate any comments about your censoring practices, as all my comments relating to this issue disappeared completely.

The [Portion removed.] of my censored comment dated to December 6th, 2014, above, was a polite complement for restricting this discussion. An earlier comment disappeared completely.

With all due respect, I am requesting that you ether leave my comments as I wrote them, or erase everything I wrote, the way you were treating my comments relating to your censoring practices.

To be clear, should this comment disappear I am requesting that my censored comment from Dec. 6th, 2014 will disappear as well without any evidence that I ever posted. The way you usually treat my comments.

Sincerely, yours
G. Orwell

After:

Gone. This follow up comment appeared and vanished on Jan 31, 2015. Mr. Orwell was referring to the comment posted on  Dec. 6th, 2014. I am copying that comment:

Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Dec 6, 2014 at 1:47 am

George Orwell is a registered user.

This visual world is quite amazing. I watched parts of the meeting.

I am curious to know how much did it cost to prepare the printed material which was in front of the three participants?
It seems that some effort was put into this. Blue papers.
Who looked into the legal issues reflected in those those papers? Lawyers? What was the cost? Who authorized that?

PAUSD must be in great shape enabling the person in charge to spend this time. May I recommend to pass the script of this meeting to SNL?

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Before:

Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
15 minutes ago
George Orwell is a registered user.

I have posted the following comment yesterday. The following comment disappeared, my comment, above, remained censored and no trace to the earlier comment I mentioned.
This is my fifth try:

Dear Editor,

I posted two comments. One comment disappeared and the other was censored.

I happen to be very particular about censoring of my own writing. My opinions about censoring are well known. High school students used to read my famous book. I do not know if they still do.

Clearly, you do not appreciate any comments about your censoring practices, as all my comments relating to this issue disappeared completely.
The [Portion removed.] of my censored comment above was a polite complement for restricting this discussion.

With all due respect, I am requesting that you ether leave my comments as I wrote them, or erase everything I wrote, the way you were treating my comments relating to your censoring practices.

To be clear, should this comment disappear I am requesting that my censored comment above will disappear as well without any evidence that I ever posted. The way you usually treat my comments.

Sincerely, yours
G. Orwell

After:

Gone, vanished. The censored comment remained. The editor does not seem to think much of G. Orwell’s requests. I happened to notice the editor promptly  responding  to comments posted by more affluent community members. I hope to post here soon some past censoring which will manifest that.

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Before:

Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
1 hour ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Apparently I cannot grasp the virtual world’s technicalities. My comments, complementing those in charge of this virtual board keep disappearing. I’ll deeply appreciate any advice.

I am trying to overcome my technical ignorance. Here is my comment, again:

Well done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

The following was written long long time ago about England:
“…The sinister fact about literary censorship in England is that it is largely voluntary.
Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news — things which on their own merits would get the big headlines-being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that ‘it wouldn’t do’ to mention that particular fact. So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralised, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics….” G. Orwell.

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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
6 minutes ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

This visual world is quite amazing. I watched parts of the meeting.

I am curious to know how much did it cost to prepare the printed material which was in front of the three participants?
It seems that some effort was put into this. Blue papers.
Who looked into the legal issues reflected in those those papers? Lawyers? What was the cost? Who authorized that?

PAUSD must be in great shape enabling the person in charge to spend this time. May I recommend to pass the script of this meeting to SNL?

I want to compliment, again, the queen or king of this virtual world for restricting this thread. Well done!

After:

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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
8 hours ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

This visual world is quite amazing. I watched parts of the meeting.

I am curious to know how much did it cost to prepare the printed material which was in front of the three participants?
It seems that some effort was put into this. Blue papers.
Who looked into the legal issues reflected in those those papers? Lawyers? What was the cost? Who authorized that?

PAUSD must be in great shape enabling the person in charge to spend this time. May I recommend to pass the script of this meeting to SNL?

[Portion removed.]

Comment: first comment gone, second comment  “edited” – [Portion removed.] was:’ “I want to compliment, again, the queen or king of this virtual world for restricting this thread. Well done!”

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Thread Titled: New committee addresses Palo Alto Unified’s achievement gap

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/12/03/new-committee-addresses-palo-alto-unifieds-achievement-gap

Before:

Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
0 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

@Anonymous, ugh and Paly Alum—

Your removed comments along many other censored comments can be found on a page I dedicated in my blog to the ongoing censoring. I post comments Before & after being censored.
link – Web Link

After:

Sorry, but further commenting on this topic has been closed.

Comment: I posted the above comment on 12/11/14.  The thread was locked shortly afterwords, the comment disappeared without any trace I ever posted. It so happened that I also posted on the same type of comment about the same time on the thread dealing with Gangs in EPA (above).

Both threads were locked within the same hour. 

Here’s to the First Amendment!

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Before:

Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
38 minutes ago
George Orwell is a registered user.
Well done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!Dear Queen or King of this virtual world,
This is my second attempt to post my sincere compliment. I hope that my comment will not disappear again, as it is important to give credit where credit is due.I’ll add now –
“Threats to freedom of speech, writing and action, though often trivial in isolation, are cumulative in their effect and, unless checked, lead to a general disrespect for the rights of the citizen.” G. Orwell

After:

Vanished, no trace left.

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Before:

Posted by Paly Alum
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 hours ago

Paly Alum is a registered user.

Just the facts: I graduated from Paly in the early 80s, prior to the Tinsley program of 1986, which is the Voluntary Transfer Program (VTP) where students from East Palo Alto and East Menlo Park are bused to PAUSD. I enrolled in regular lane classes and there were was no achievement gap.

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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
1 hour ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Well done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

After:

Posted by Paly Alum
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 hours ago

Paly Alum is a registered user.

[Post removed.]

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Comment – Orwell’s comment vanished, no trace left. 

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Before:

Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
58 minutes ago

Oh Boy! Another committee on the achievement gap. The last few accomplished exactly what?

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Posted by ugh
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
45 minutes ago

Well, here we are, in the midst of a national conversation on racism, and what have we here? A bunch of new evidence that we have not yet become post racial. Some of our examples of local Palo Alto racism are more subtle. Like the commenter above who places the blame for the achievement gap on “parent’s values.” This is only a 5.

We get more explicitly racial with “experienced parent” who tells us that “I know minorities, both in Palo Alto and EPA [oh good, hardly wait to hear about your maid and gardner], who have caring parents and they do fine in school. No committee can change the mechanics of a family.” Now that is really more like an 8, because it has the accusation that the “mechanics of a family” are the reason that minority children do not achieve compared with those “minorities” that “experienced” “knows” who do fine. Actually I think that “experienced” should get a 1 point bonus for her invocation of the Moynihan report even though she surely is totally ignorant of its existence. So, total racist score is 9.

Here is a full 10 pointer: “Asians are students of color and a minority group yet they do not have the same achievement gap that black and brown children have. As a rule, they achieve at very high levels. A topic for consideration in these meetings might focus on whether or not black and brown families place the same emphasis on education that white and Asian families do.” Yes, BING BING BING we have a winner! The prize for most openly racist post [and the competition tonight was stiff indeed] goes to “37 year resident” who mentioned model minorities, stereotyped them as “as a rule, high achievers” [well done, extra points!] and then gives us a half nelson with comparing them favorably to “black and brown families.” Yes the censor is evidently doing his laundry or clipping his toenails and so this one slips by, fully racist with a twist and gets a perfect 10.

So to recap, this is really racist, and the editor should wake up.

After:

Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by ugh
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
1 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled: Teen arrested in Gunn graffiti case

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/30/teen-arrested-in-gunn-graffiti-case

Before:

Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jun 13, 2014 at 8:19 am
George Orwell is a registered user.

Well done! Lock the thread, silence the discussion!

@Mark Weiss: While I am not familiar with the issues you relate to, the following comes to mind:
“In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” — G. Orwell

I am very pleased. Please relay my deepest appreciation to the Queen or King of this virtual world who are doing fantastic job of promoting my books in the “New World”.

“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.” — G. Orwell

Looking back, I would have added a timing component, along these lines:
Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed, when someone else does not want it printed: everything else is public relations.

After:

Gone.

Comment: Orwell ‘s comment  disappeared today, Dec 1, 2014, many months after it was posted.   This thread was “sleeping” for few months. Today Mark Weiss added a comment that had me re-read  this thread.  Shortly after Weiss’ commented the thread was locked completely and Orwell’s comment disappeared. 

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Thread Titled: VIDEO: Stanford students protest decision in Ferguson

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/11/26/video-stanford-students-protest-decision-in-ferguson#comment_form

Before:

Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
10 hours ago
George Orwell is a registered user.

Well done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

“Threats to freedom of speech, writing and action, though often trivial in isolation, are cumulative in their effect and, unless checked, lead to a general disrespect for the rights of the citizen.” G. Orwell

Dear Queen or King of this virtual world,
This is my third attempt to post my sincere compliment. I hope that my comment will not disappear again, as it is important to give credit where credit is due.

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
56 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.
@Crescent Park Dad–

I wonder what how you violated the terms of use, what was the reason that had your comment removed?

Your removed comment can be found in a page I dedicated in my blog to the ongoing censoring here. I posted many samples of comments Before & After censoring.
here is a link – Web Link

After:

Both comments vanish.

Comment: I could not find that writing about another point of view or mentioning censoring violates the terms of use. Here’s to freedom of speech:

“I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it. ”  Voltaire

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Before:

Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
9 hours ago
George Orwell is a registered user.
Well done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

“Threats to freedom of speech, writing and action, though often trivial in isolation, are cumulative in their effect and, unless checked, lead to a general disrespect for the rights of the citizen.” G. Orwell

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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
35 minutes ago

Crescent Park Dad is a registered user.

A different point of view:

Web Link

After:

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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 27, 2014 at 10:11 am

Crescent Park Dad is a registered user.

[Post removed.]

Comments:

@Crescent Park Dad – different point of view? really?

@George Orwell –  Comment  gone.  No trace left.

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Thread Titled: Palo Alto set to approve digital artwork for City Hall lobby

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/11/26/palo-alto-set-to-approve-digital-artwork-for-city-hall-lobby

Before:

Posted by Post or Portion Removed
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
43 minutes ago

Looks like the moderator removed Feh’s entire post, not just a portion.

I guess spending more than $4,000,000 on one floor of the City Hall isn’t worthy of comment. Perhaps Feh had a way for us to recoup some of our money but now we’ll never know.

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
29 minutes ago

@Post or Portion Removed–

It so happened that I kept Feh’s comment. I’ll post it soon on the page I dedicated to the ongoing censoring in my blog:

link – Web Link

I think that the removed comment of ‘Crescent Park Dad’ which was posted on another thread dealing with Ferguson may worth your time. It can be found on the link, above.

In case any of these current postings will disappear, I’ll post those.

After:

Both comments gone.

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Before:

Posted by Feh
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
2 minutes ago

Look on the bright side. Maybe the digital “art” can be programmed with a continuous stream of “Transportation” Czar Jaime Rodriquez’s office and him conducting business for his own companies. A light can blink and sirens can blare on the rare occasions he actually does something related to his job.

After:

Posted by Feh
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
4 hours ago

[Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled:  The nettlesome path to helping our teens

Link http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/11/15/guest-opinion-the-nettlesome-path-to-helping-our-teens

Before:

Posted by Blame game
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
6 hours ago

Mark,

Your letter here is a contradictory mess. And your assertions reek of arrogance. I know the words mess and arrogance are tough to read, but I hope they remain intact from the consors reach. Like you, I was there, too. On the one hand, you say don’t blame the schools and individual students, and I agree with that, but then you give in to your core weakness of blaming everyone and everything else, from the so-called public which would have the audacity to contact school leaders in a time of crisis, to a number of staff members who have underperformed in your eyes. Your solution is that we reduce class sizes, stop assemblies, and basically ask less of our staff. I guess that is one way to look at it, but you’ve written the real solution already, and I don’t think anyone will disagree with it: our schools are a mirror of us. You, Mark, are the us. So am I. You should work more on you.

After:

Posted by Blame game
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
6 hours ago

Mark,

[Portion removed.] Like you, I was there, too. On the one hand, you say don’t blame the schools and individual students, and I agree with that, but then you give in to your core weakness of blaming everyone and everything else, from the so-called public which would have the audacity to contact school leaders in a time of crisis, to a number of staff members who have underperformed in your eyes. Your solution is that we reduce class sizes, stop assemblies, and basically ask less of our staff. I guess that is one way to look at it, but you’ve written the real solution already, and I don’t think anyone will disagree with it: our schools are a mirror of us. [Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled: Chris Hedges, distinguished Journalist to speak in Palo Alto

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/11/11/chris-hedges-distinguished-journalist-to-speak-in-palo-alto

Before:

Chris Hedges, distinguished Journalist to speak in Palo Alto

Original post made by Alice Schaffer Smith, Green Acres, on Nov 11, 2014

JOURNALIST CHRIS HEDGES TO SPEAK IN PALO ALTO
on LOSS OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS IN AMERICAThe distinguished journalist, Chris Hedges, will speak on November 24, 2014 at 7:00 pm at the First United Methodist Church, 625 Hamilton Avenue, Palo Alto, on the National Defense Authorization Act which concerns the indefinite detention of Americans without charge or trial and the loss of constitutional rights over which Hedges, Norm Chomsky and six other plaintiffs sued the Obama Administration.Hedges’ talk is hosted by the Mid-Peninsula Chapter of the ACLU of Northern California and co-sponsored by the Peninsula Peace and Justice Center and the California Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. The event is free and open to the public.Chris Hedges was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for Journalism in 2002, as a member of the team of journalists for their global terrorism coverage. Hedges also received the Amnesty International Global Award for Human Rights that same year. He has authored 12 books including: Death of the Liberal Class (2010); Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt” co-authored with cartoonist Joe Sacco (2012) ; I Don’t Believe in Atheists (2008); American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War in America (2008). A collection of his Truthdig Columns, The World As It is: Dispatches on the Myth of Human Progress (2011) was published by Nation Books.Truthdig has provided the following biographical information:Hedges previously spent nearly two decades as a foreign correspondent in Central America, the Middle East, Africa and the Balkans. He has reported from more than 50 countries and has worked for The Christian Science Monitor, National Public Radio, The Dallas Morning News and The New York Times, for which he was a foreign correspondent for 15 years.
Hedges was part of the team of reporters at The New York Times awarded a Pulitzer Prize in 2002 for the paper’s coverage of global terrorism. He also received the Amnesty International Global Award for Human Rights Journalism in 2002. The Los Angeles Press Club honored Hedges’ original columns in Truthdig by naming the author the Online Journalist of the Year in 2009 and again in 2011. The LAPC also granted him the Best Online Column award in 2010 for his Truthdig essay “One Day We’ll All Be Terrorists”.
Hedges is a senior fellow at The Nation Institute in New York City. He has taught at Columbia University, New York University, Princeton University and The University of Toronto. He currently teaches prisoners at a maximum-security prison in New Jersey.
Hedges began his career reporting on the Falkland War from Argentina for National Public Radio. He went on to cover the war in El Salvador and Nicaragua for five years, first for The Christian Science Monitor and National Public Radio and later The Dallas Morning News. Following six years in Latin America, he took time off to study Arabic and then went to Jerusalem and later Cairo. He spent seven years in the Middle East, most of them as the bureau chief there for The New York Times. He left the Middle East in 1995 for Sarajevo to cover the war in Bosnia and later reported the war in Kosovo. Afterward, he joined the Times’ investigative team and was based in Paris to cover al-Qaida. He left the Times after being issued a formal reprimand for denouncing the Bush administration’s invasion of Iraq.
Hedges holds a B.A. in English literature from Colgate University and a Master of Divinity degree from Harvard University. He was awarded an honorary doctorate from Starr King School for the Ministry in Berkeley, Calif. Hedges speaks Arabic, French and Spanish and studied classics, including ancient Greek and Latin, at Harvard. In addition to writing a weekly original column for Truthdig, he has written for Harper’s Magazine, Le Monde, The New Statesman, The New York Review of Books, Adbusters, Granta, Foreign Affairs and other publications. He lives in Princeton, New Jersey and is married to the Canadian actress Eunice Wong with whom he has two children. He also has two children from a previous marriage.Web Link
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Comment – This thread vanished. I noticed this thread because of the editorial about the local politics, below.

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Thread Titled:  Editorial: An inflection point in local politics

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/11/07/editorial-election-results-signify-an-inflection-point-in-local-politics

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
51 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

@Alice Schaffer Smith – I posted the following comment earlier responding to your question and the quick answer about the like buttons. My comments disappeared, almost instantaneously.

I am trying again:

@Alice Schaffer Smith-
Please count your blessings, the moderator responded to you. Your question was not related to the content of this editorial.
The moderator responded to an “off topic issue”.

I asked numerous times about the censoring. Some appalling examples. I never got any response.

Well, I am just a fool.

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
30 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

Sorry – my bad. Here is the last sentence of my comment which disappeared completely earlier today-

I started a blog to have a place where I cannot be deleted. Here are some samples of censoring – Before & After – Web Link

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
1 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

@Alice Schaffer Smith –

Please count your blessings, the moderator responded to you. Your question was not related to the content of this editorial.
The moderator responded to an “off topic issue”.
I asked numerous times about the censoring. Some appalling examples. I never got any response.
Well, I am just a fool.

I started a blog to have a place where I cannot be deleted. Here are some samples of censoring – Before & After – Web Link

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Gone.

Comment: I added the info about this thread  more than a month after it was posted.  The formal  time stamp of comment is added only after 24 hours that a comment is left on the thread.  The “Before” may not reflect the exact order of my  postings, as my comments disappeared very fast, no trace left, no time stamp. I did not keep a record of the time I posted. 

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Thread Titled: School district OCR legal bills top $366,000

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/10/30/palo-alto-school-boards-ocr-spending-tops-366000

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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
2 hours ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Well Done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

Dear Queen or King of this virtual world,
This is my second attempt to post my sincere compliment. I hope that my comment will not disappear again, as it is important to give credit where credit is due.

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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
7 hours ago
George Orwell is a registered user.
Well Done. Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community

16 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are automatically removed. Why?

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
on Nov 1, 2014 at 10:55 am

village fool is a registered user.

@Anonymous22 –

Thank you!

Comment: This is beyond me, usually it is the other way around .  My Thank you! was removed automatically “Due to repeated violations of our Terms of Use”. Pressing the “Why” explained that I could email to ask to be removed from the removed posters’ list. I do not know why I was automatically removed. I did not email to ask to be removed from the removed list.

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Posted by JLS mom of 2
a resident of JLS Middle School
1 hour ago
JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

As I posted above, “Graff billed just on the Resolution alone: 7.3 hours on 5/21; 9 hours on 5/22; 9.9 hours on 5/27; 10.5 hours on 5/29; 10.8 hours on 5/30; 9.2 hours on 6/2; 12.8 hours on 6/3; 11.2 hours on 6/5; 12.2 hours on 6/17.”

That totals 92.9 hours. At 275/hour that is over $25,000 just for those days alone.

For 2 pages.

According to “Retired Teacher” that was “money well spent.”

We’ll find out on Tuesday.

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Posted by JLS mom of 2
a resident of JLS Middle School
on Oct 30, 2014 at 8:05 pm

JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

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Posted by Jason S.
a resident of Greenmeadow
1 minutes ago
Jason S. is a registered user.

Clarification: the headline says that the school board’s OCR spending tops $366,000. But actually that was the school district’s spending as a whole. Only $22K of that amount was for the school board’s OCR resolution. The remaining $344K was for dealing with the various OCR cases, complying with OCR’s requests for thousands of pages of information and dozens of interviews with teachers and students, creating new policies and procedures, responding to public records acts requests, and providing training for district staff. That’s not the school board’s spending, that’s the school district’s spending. Only 6% of the total amount was spent for the OCR resolution.

By the way, it’s worth noting that the school district is allowed to charge for the direct costs it incurs in responding to Public Records Acts requests – but PAUSD does not currently do so. Now that’s something one can legitimately point at as a waste of money by PAUSD – not recovering its costs to copy many thousands of pages of documents.

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Posted by Jason S.
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Oct 30, 2014 at 11:08 pm

Jason S. is a registered user.

Clarification: the headline says that the school board’s OCR spending tops $366,000. But actually that was the school district’s spending as a whole. Only $22K of that amount was for the school board’s OCR resolution. The remaining $344K was for dealing with the various OCR cases, complying with OCR’s requests for thousands of pages of information and dozens of interviews with teachers and students, creating new policies and procedures, responding to public records acts requests, and providing training for district staff. That’s not the school board’s spending, that’s the school district’s spending. Only 6% of the total amount was spent for the OCR resolution.

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Thread Titled: Editing afoot by school candidate

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/10/24/around-town

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Posted by parent2
a resident of College Terrace
14 minutes ago

parent2 is a registered user.

I looked at Catherine Foster’s public resume on LinkedIn.

Web Link

I was really surprised when I compared it to her campaign resume which is totally undated. The positions listed without dates on the campaign site were held for a short time 20 years or more ago. Foster should put dates on her campaign resume. She should be more transparent than this.

Most people think it’s more important what a candidate has done in recent years than 20 years ago in a first job after graduation. Not sure why that’s even on her site.

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Posted by parent2
a resident of College Terrace
8 hours ago

parent2 is a registered user.

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

Comment:  Seriously?  IP addresses? I may  try to write sometime my understandings of the Weekly’s terms of use: Though should always agree with censoring, Though should never disagree with Weekly etc.

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Thread Title: Editorial: A sadly misguided board

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/06/editorial-a-sadly-misguided-board

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Posted by Can’t wait
a resident of Charleston Gardens
13 hours ago

For new school board

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Posted by Me too
a resident of Barron Park
25 minutes ago

Yes, so they can be convinced as Max has once they see all the relevant information.

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Posted by Can’t wait
a resident of Charleston Gardens
18 hours ago

For new school board

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Posted by  Me too
a resident of Barron Park
5 hours ago

[Post removed.]

Comment: I have posted below other edited comments which I happened to notice when this thread was published- June 2014. The comment above was edited on Oct/12/2014.

This page calls for serious re-org, including  a separate list of threads which were locked completely, a list of Curious’ locked threads,  and probably  a new section – vanishing threads.  Unfortunately, this re-org will need to wait. 

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Thread Titled: Geometry in middle school?

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2012/10/12/geometry-in-middle-school#comment_form

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Posted by village fool

a resident of another community
20 minutes ago

@True Blue –
You must have sinned. The why? explains that should you make an effort to correct your behavior the restriction will be removed on a trail basis.

May I suggest a posting that will probably show effort to improve, and may remove you from the black list?:
* The Weekly site never censors for view point.

While I am curious to read your posts (here and on other threads), I am not going to loggin on order to do that.

I have posted on my blog many samples of censoring (Before & After). Link: Web Link

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Vanished.

Comment – I read the terms of use. I could not find any mentioning that posting an opinion about the censoring violates the terms of use.

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Thread Titled: Editorial: Terry Godfrey, Ken Dauber for Palo Alto school board

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/10/03/editorial-terry-godfrey-ken-dauber-for-palo-alto-school-board

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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
2 hours ago
George Orwell is a registered user.

Well done! Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

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Posted by Grandmother of 7
a resident of Midtown
1 hour ago

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Comment: I saw the posting of ‘Grandmother of 7′  when it was listed as – post removed. At some point  Grandma disappeared completely.  I hope she is in good health. 

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Thread Titled: Explain the “new” Town Forum

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/20/explain-the-new-town-forum#comment_form

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

I cannot answer your question. I posted the following comment earlier this morning on the thread dealing with Cell Towers –Web Link. My comment vanished. It can be found along other removed comments on the link I privided below.

Here is the vanished comment:

Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
12 minutes ago
I have read the terms of use. I think that this comment does not violate any of the terms of use.

I could not find any mentioning that expressing one’s opinion about the Weekly’s practice of censoring content/view points violates the terms of use.
I have posted four comments which were removed from this thread on my blog on a page I dedicated to the censoring issues here:

Link – Web Link

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Comment: my  comment disappeared extremely fast. Maybe the new policies came along improved censoring mechanisms?

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Thread Titled: Cell tower on verge of approval for Little League field

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/19/cell-tower-on-verge-of-approval-for-little-league-field

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
13 minutes ago
I have read the terms of use. I think that this comment does not violate any of the terms of use.

I could not find any mentioning that expressing one’s opinion about the Weekly’s practice of censoring content/view points violates the terms of use.
I have posted four comments which were removed from this thread on my blog on a page I dedicated to the censoring issues here:

Link – Web Link

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Posted by PA Weakly
a resident of Charleston Gardens
9 minutes ago
PA Weakly is a registered user.

Parent:

Truth will never be available via this forum. The Weekly deletes any and all posts that are intelligent enough to prove their bias. Note my last two posts were deleted and I am apparently now on “probation” because I do not share their views. They will leave the one where I call them out directly so they can refute my claims. There was nothing in my posts attacking anyone (certainly nothing like some of the attacks above) but the Weekly deleted them because they did not match their own agenda.

So they have successfully muted an “opponent”.

If you want real information email noballparkcelltower@gmail.com. I promise you will be treated respectfully and your email address will not be shared nor counted as those “against” the tower. We are extremely ethical people, despite what the PA Weekly’s censorship suggests.

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Posted by Robert
a resident of another community
32 minutes ago

>We are extremely ethical people, despite what the PA Weekly’s censorship suggests.

I don’t think anyone out there thinks you are unethical, just a screw loose with too much time on your hands.

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Posted by PA Weakly
a resident of Charleston Gardens
2 minutes ago
PA Weakly is a registered user.

See? Completely disrespectful and useless comment, but the Weekly will ignore it. In fact, they like it.

Thank you, Robert, for your thoughtful and educated comment. (Not!).

The Weekly is all about the dumbing down – just look at their advertising, that’s what makes them money! No need to think.

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Posted by PA Weakly
a resident of Charleston Gardens

10 hours ago
PA Weakly is a registered user.
Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users who are logged in. Register or Log in. Why?

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Posted by Robert
a resident of another community
9 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by PA Weakly
a resident of Charleston Gardens

9 hours ago
PA Weakly is a registered user.
Due to violations of our Terms of Use, comments from this poster are only visible to registered users who are logged in. Register or Log in. Why?

Comment – I have posted above a sequence of 3 comments. The timing of the comments posted before being censored reflects the time I saved those, not the actual timing of the comments being posted online. 

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Posted by PA Weakly
a resident of Charleston Gardens
27 minutes ago
PA Weakly is a registered user.

Mr. Recycle:

Do you know what the cell tower opposition feels makes the ballpark historic? I assume you do because you know that this case is invalid. Please share with all so they can benefit from your knowledge of the controversy. Or, admit you have no idea and are just looking for a way to promote your own NIMBY views.

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Posted by PA Weakly
a resident of Charleston Gardens
12 hours ago

PA Weakly is a registered user.

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Thread Titled: Candidates for Palo Alto school board debate the issues

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/12/candidates-for-palo-alto-school-board-debate-the-issues

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Posted by George Orwell
a resident of East Palo Alto
10 hours ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Well done! Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

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Posted by Wondering?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
9 minutes ago

> Some students are currently struggling as it is in English

And who might those students be? Are these recent immigrants? Are these VTP students? Are these students in all three school divisions (elementary, middle, high)?

And from where does this belief originate? Does the STAR English test scores show these problems? What problems are some students having?

Could someone explain?

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Posted by Wondering?
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
17 hours ago

> Some students are currently struggling as it is in English

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And from where does this belief originate? Does the STAR English test scores show these problems? What problems are some students having?

Could someone explain?

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Posted by Leadership
a resident of Gunn High School
44 minutes ago

If it weren’t for the OCR involvement in our district, the sped department would still be pretending as if 504s didn’t exist. That’s a pretty big deal. Our district’s willingness to put money into attacking the OCR rather than self-examination and improvement in light of such a serious dereliction of duty should be a subject of concern for CAC.

If Foster is looking at this issue purely from the naval-gazing of the board in going after the OCR, then sped parents have every right to question the support of an organization that represents their interests. That’s not “picking on” anyone.

By the way, I am looking to see whether candidates can reason through and express an opinion that ISN’T set in stone. We’ve had too much of people at the top prioritizing how they look above making course corrections. Intelligent people should be able to change their minds based on more input. Dauber for sure is the kind of person who would keep making course corrections. I think Foster would be, too, so I am going to continue to watch, as I said, I take back my original critique.

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Posted by Leadership
a resident of Gunn High School
18 hours ago

If it weren’t for the OCR involvement in our district, the sped department would still be pretending as if 504s didn’t exist. That’s a pretty big deal. Our district’s willingness to put money into attacking the OCR rather than self-examination and improvement in light of such a serious dereliction of duty should be a subject of concern for CAC.

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By the way, I am looking to see whether candidates can reason through and express an opinion that ISN’T set in stone. We’ve had too much of people at the top prioritizing how they look above making course corrections. Intelligent people should be able to change their minds based on more input. Dauber for sure is the kind of person who would keep making course corrections. I think Foster would be, too, so I am going to continue to watch, as I said, I take back my original critique.

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Thread titled: Changes, new features for Town Square

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/12/changes-new-features-for-town-square

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
1 hour ago

@junk –
Back on April I posted a question on a thread titled: ” In-depth report: How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying” link – Web Link

I asked how a Federal investigation is changing the way schools respond to bullying? I still do not understand.
My question vanished, the thread was locked completely. While I may be slow to understand, I doubt this is a junk question.
Here is a page where I listed samples of censoring – Before & After: Web Link

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
26 minutes ago

I have listed in my blog samples of censoring. I am assuming that this post will disappear. Maybe my IP address will be blocked?

Samples of removed posting included me asking how a Federal investigation changed the way schools respond to bullying? I did not understand. I still do not understand.

Two notable quotes about the censoring:

“…I feel this is an important area for discussion within the community about the power of censorship in shaping an biasing the discussion on Palo Alto issues…. – Anonymous, copied from Palo Alto online Web Link
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“… Lately Bill Johnson seems to be editing for content of speech rather than manner or tone. He appears to have particular ideas about what kinds of arguments “help” the “community” and what do not. This is unfortunate since it appears to be a slippery slope with a lot of deletions occurring. To say he owns the means of expression is a bit unsatisfactory given the expectations set for online communications and free speech in the electronic age. In practical terms it is a big commitment of time and energy for the weekly staff that would be better spent in improving its reporting especially in the area of education…” -PalyDad, copied fromPalo alto online, (Web Link

Here is a link my page, samples of censoring, Before & After – Web Link

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
52 minutes ago

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Thread titled: Editorial: A half-hearted mea culpa

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/05/editorial-a-half-hearted-mea-culpa

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Posted by village fool
a resident of another community
14 minutes ago

@moderator–

mea what???

(or whose culpa?). Always someone else, I guess.

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Gone. No trace left.  I posted this comment on 12/21/14

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Posted by anon
a resident of Evergreen Park
1 hour ago

not sure why my earlier comment was removed.

For the record Holman has been very pro-resident in her voting.
I offered some examples of Holman’s pro-resident votes……just a few of many:

voted AGAINST Alma Plaza at PTC member

voted AGAINST 101 Lytton as Council member

voted AGAINST JJ&F project as PTC member

voted AGAINST the PA Bowl site hotel

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Posted by EIEIOevery incumbent out
a resident of Green Acres
58 minutes ago

Unless you happen to live in parts of town Karen Holman looks down her nose at, like the neighborhood of Gunn High pSchool, Greenacres, an almost rural neighborhood by the Foothills that she has tried to turn into a high density repository for all the stuff she doesn’t want on her side of town. And make money for finders fees. Incumbents must go.

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Posted by Rupert of henzau
a resident of Midtown
20 minutes ago

“For the record Holman has been very pro-resident in her voting.
I offered some examples of Holman’s pro-resident votes……just a few of many:
voted AGAINST Alma Plaza at PTC member
voted AGAINST 101 Lytton as Council member
voted AGAINST JJ&F project as PTC member
voted AGAINST the PA Bowl site hotel”

Holman supported Maybell. Consigned the ballot

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Posted by anon
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Sep 6, 2014 at 9:55 am

[Post removed.]

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Posted by EIEIO – every incumbent out
a resident of Green Acres
on Sep 6, 2014 at 5:20 pm

[Post removed.]

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Posted by Rupert of henzau
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 6, 2014 at 5:58 pm

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Thread Titled: Where’s Edmund?

Link:  http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/09/02/wheres-edmund

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Where’s Edmund?

Original post made by A parent, too on Sep 2, 2014

Noticed that Edmund Burke is no longer on the list of PA Weekly bloggers. I also haven’t seen any EB comments in the last couple months. Weekly, what happened?

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

@parent – While I cannot answer your question, I am curious to learn How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying?

“How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying?” was the title of an article which was published on On June 14th, 2013
link – Web Link

On June 17th, 2013 I wrote that transparency and accountability would be the first signs of change, I must be missing something.

I cannot ask anymore – that thread was locked completely.
I still do not understand.

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Thread Titled: Real-world PA Town Square?

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/08/14/real-world-pa-town-square#comment_form

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
13 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

@Peter Carpenter,

Fear of retaliation and the ongoing censoring are parts of my response to your – Why?
I wrote more here, Web Link, my blog.

My blog is part of my response to these issues, a place I cannot be “deleted”.

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago
@Peter Carpenter,

Fear of reticulation and the ongoing censoring are parts of my response to your – Why?
I wrote more here Web Link, my blog.
My blog is part of my response to these issues, a place I cannot be “deleted”. (this comment will vanish soon).

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
44 minutes ago

[Post removed.]

Thread restricted to registered users.

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Thread Titled: Judge sides with family in Palo Alto special education case

link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/07/14/judge-sides-with-family-in-palo-alto-special-education-case

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
32 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.

@Anonymous22-

Sorry, currently I’m not exceeding ten words. Reason –
Web Link

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
1 hour ago

village fool is a registered user.

[Post removed.]

Comment – I posted the above comment on Aug 13th, 2014.

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Thread titled: Got empathy?

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/08/08/got-empathy

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
34 minutes ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Well done! Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

Fascinating comments. I am reminded of this document – Web Link which I mentioned here Web Link

Even I could not invent any of this.

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Thread Titled: Question for Editors

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/08/08/question-for-editors-

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
50 minutes ago

This is an off topic comment. I posted the following comment twice earlier. Two times the comment disappeared completely fast. No trace left. I am trying again:

@Hmmm – I am very interested in your insight as to the possible reasons that had my post above removed. While it was off topic here, I think we both saw numerous off topic comments which remained intact.

I posted here since the thread I started yesterday was locked completely.

My removed comment can be found in a page I dedicated to the weekly’s censoring (Before & After). link Web Link

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
44 minutes ago

@Hmmm – I am very interested in your insight as to the possible reasons that had my post removed. While it was off topic here, I think we both saw numerous off topic comments which remained intact.

I posted here since the thread I started yesterday was locked completely.

My removed comment can be found in a page I dedicated to the weekly’s censoring (Before & After). link Web Link

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Vanished.

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
8 hours ago

@Hmmm –

I started a thread shortly after you started this thread.
I thanked the Weekly for letting us know on Aug 1St about the PAUSD unanimous decision to challenge to OCR (Office of Civil Rights), and asked why the Aug1St thread was locked after only one comment?
(I could not ask on the locked thread).

The moderator responded that the thread I referred to was a duplicate of an older thread. (that older thread is very interesting – Web Link)

The thread I started today link – Web Link locked completely after the moderator’s response.

The thread I started today is a rehash of a thread I started on Aug 2nd asking the same question. That thread disappeared fast. Reading your question, watching your thread “survive” had me ask again, I was curious.

Count your blessings…

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
9 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled: Invitation only candidates meeting

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/08/01/invitation-only-candidates-meeting

Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
13 hours ago

off topic comment:

@Rupert of henzau –
CNN will air- ‘Our Nixon’ tomorrow, Friday Aug 8th.

The following was copied from CNN’s page –Web Link
“…
Throughout Richard Nixon’s presidency, three of his top White House aides obsessively documented their experiences with Super 8 home movie cameras. This unique and personal visual record, created by H.R. Halde­man, John Ehrlichman and Dwight Chapin, was seized by the FBI during the Watergate investigation, then filed away and forgotten for almost 40 years.
…”

40 years. Cheers…

After:

The thread was locked completely.  No more commenting, even for registered users.

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Posted by concerned voter, a resident of Midtown
1 hour ago

Seems like contrarian, enough already and Abc have problems with the postings of Rupert. And they seem to think that be engaging in name calling and intimidation on this forum, they will prevent him from posting his opinions. And one poster complains about “ad hominem attacks”, yet engages in worse behavior using the excuse that his name calling is justified because he is right!!!!!!
Keep up the comments, Rupert. You have the right to express your opinions. Do not let certain posters intimidate you.

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Posted by concerned voter, a resident of Midtown
1 hour ago

enough already–how does Rupert’s criticism of Holman differ from the ongoing criticism of Scharff, Shepherd and other members of the council. There has been ongoing criticism of members of the council on this forum even before the Maybell controversy. Do you classify that as “stalking”, as well?
In fact, I recall a regular poster from Green Acres who would constantly criticize certain council members during the sunup to the Maybell vote. Was that “Stalking”??

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Posted by concerned voter, a resident of Midtown
2 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by concerned voter, a resident of Midtown
2 hours ago

[Post removed.]

Comment – the above is just a sample. I happened to see some more. I may add in another time.

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Thread titled: Thank you Weekly for letting us know that PAUSD Board decided unanimously to challenge federal agency.

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/08/02/thank-you-weekly-for-letting-us-know-that-pausd-board-decided-unanimously-to-challenge-federal-agency–#comment_form

Before:

Thank you Weekly for letting us know that PAUSD Board decided unanimously to challenge federal agency.

Original post made by village fool on Aug 2, 2014

Thank you Weekly for letting us know that PAUSD board decided to challenge a federal agency.link – Web LinkLocking the thread reduces the visibility of this important issue on Town Square, as the thread moves to the bottom of the issues addressed.Do you think that this issue is of no interest to Town Square readers? It was published only yesterday. This issue was very high on TQ’s agenda only few weeks ago.May I ask why this important thread was locked completely?Thank you for letting us know.

Comments (1)

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
7 minutes ago

Sorry, I failed to add the following to my post, above:

it seems to me that the timing of this decision to challenge a federal agency is even more intriguing given the current situation where no incumbents is running for the next PAUSD board election.

After:

gone. I started this thread,  I have listed above the whole thread.

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Thread Titled: Charges dropped in East Palo Alto drive-by shooting

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/07/17/charges-dropped-in-east-palo-alto-drive-by-shooting

Before:

Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jul 19, 2014 at 1:15 am
George Orwell is a registered user.

Well Done! Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

Dear Queen or King of this virtual world,
This is my third attempt to post my sincere compliment. I hope that my comment will not disappear again, as i t is important to give credit where credit is due.

Dear ‘Bru’,
You wrote ‘if people are afraid to tell the truth, then we have no justice.’
Yes, this Gordian Knot tying Truth, Justice, Fear and the “New World”s First Amendment.

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Posted by Bru, a resident of Crescent Park
17 minutes ago

Bru is a registered user.

Don Law could be the defendant’s lawyer, who knows? He irrationally assumes that the witness’s actions says nothing about this. He’s entitled to his opinion, everyone else is entitled to theirs. As long as we have anyone being murdered for cooperating with the police, all justice needs to be looked at critically, not just dismissed by a cheap slogan – “Innocent until proven guilty.” Witnesses are a must have for any justice system to retain credibility, if people are afraid to tell the truth, then we have no justice.

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Posted by Bru, a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 18, 2014 at 3:36 pm

Bru is a registered user.

[Portion removed.] As long as we have anyone being murdered for cooperating with the police, all justice needs to be looked at critically, not just dismissed by a cheap slogan – “Innocent until proven guilty.” Witnesses are a must have for any justice system to retain credibility, if people are afraid to tell the truth, then we have no justice.

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Thread Titled: Los Angeles ruling could jeopardize Palo Alto vehicle-dwelling law

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/20/los-angeles-ruling-could-jeopardize-palo-alto-vehicle-dwelling-law

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Posted by Mary, a resident of College Terrace
1 hour ago
[Post removed.]
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Posted by Mary, a resident of College Terrace
58 minutes ago
[Post removed.]
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Posted by Mary, a resident of College Terrace
2 minutes ago
Editor, please explain why you removed my post:Why was my post removed? I spoke to a particular egregious case on Cambridge Ave. in College Terrace. This guy is over the top, and he parked there AFTER the parking ban. He is on the same street as your headquarters, would you want him parked in front of YOUR business?”I live in College Terrace, and have experienced these situations for years, with no help from our CC. After we finally got (forced) the parking ban, the situation improved, but now this guy creeps back in, and nothing is done. He lives, permanently, in a beat up old van, right across the street from Jack-in-the Box, and he cooks outside, and dumps his stuff behind his van.The parking ban needs to be ENFORCED!. And we need to enforce our current ban on car camping. “
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Posted by Mary, a resident of College Terrace
18 hours ago
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Posted by Mary, a resident of College Terrace
18 hours ago
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 Comment: Seems that one of Mary’s comments disappeared without a trace.

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Thread Titled: Members of Page Mill YMCA protest closure

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/07/10/members-of-page-mill-ymca-protest-closure

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Posted by Nothinbutthetruth, a resident of Barron Park
1 hour ago

PAmoderate, actually you just proved my point by failing to admit the obvious. “get over it.”

Coded Message:

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Gone, vanished.  Nothinbutthetruth‘  follow-up post:

Posted by Nothinbutthetruth, a resident of Barron Park
10 hours ago

Dear Palo Alto/weekly I incorporated a coded message for PAmoderate and you deleted it without acknowledging that you did so. Granted this is your forum and you can dictate the agenda for your self servicing purposes but at the very least if you have any legitimacy to your positions surely you can allow yourself and those whom you want to promote your agenda to to be challenged and if not then you are no better than some banana republic dictating what the people can hear and see manipulating their ideas of what is right and wrong.

[Portion removed.]

Paloaltoonline, if you erase the above coded message without acknowledging it then you are definitely a propagandist and I will expose you for being so.

Comment: @Nothinbutthetruth, Thank you for posting your follow-up comment! It so happened that I had your “vanished” comment.  Welcome to the “club”…  My comments disappeared many times without a trace that I have ever posted.

I also experienced comments being partially censored without any indication that my comment was censored. You can find the “story” of such comment, below,  under the thread titled: “Glenn ‘Max’ McGee accepts Palo Alto superintendent job”

Obviously I cannot see or notice everything, especially when a comment is removed without trace. Thanks again, vf.

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Thread Titled: New Palo Alto school chief: Arriving with ‘fresh eyes and ears’

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/07/09/new-palo-alto-school-chief-arriving-with-fresh-eyes-and-ears

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Posted by must be anonymous, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
47 minutes ago

25 Churchill is like a nest of vipers in a bad Dilbert cartoon. Dealing with them has been literally traumatic and damaging for my family. In all my years, experience with inner-city schools, wealthy private schools, experience with all kinds of large, small, sick, healthy organizations, I have never come across so many sick petty vindictive but slick players who shouldn’t be allowed within a million miles of children. There are too many who think they are well-meaning and not bad people, therefore anything they do or anything that comes out of their mouths is true and justified.

If the new super is here being prepped by them for how he should see the parents, the schools, and even the conflicts, he and we are in for it. We should have an infusion of honesty, ethics, transparency, and just plain CONCERN FOR THE KIDS. He should fire most of them, if he knew what they did to contribute to Skelly’s problems and how they hurt trust and connectedness to so many families in this district. We all see Skelly because he’s a public figure. We don’t see the kids who suffered, the family’s who suffered because of this lot.

Parents, if you get McGee’s ear, name names. Or things will never get any better. Not that it’s likely to happen, or that McGee will see you without prejudice after that lot is through with him.

After:

Posted by must be anonymous, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

Comment: IP addresses…

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
1 minutes ago

@Moderator,
May I humbly suggest to link this thread also to the “Schools & Kids” category? (currently it is under “Palo alto Issues”)

After:

Gone, vanished.  Fast (less than five min.). Thread moved to “Schools & kids”.

You are very welcome.

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Thread Titled: East Palo Alto endorses affordable-housing fee for developers

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2014/07/02/east-palo-alto-approves-developers-affordable-housing-fee

Before:

Posted by village fool , a resident of another community
20 minutes ago

@Moderator – may I humbly suggest to link this thread to another appropriate category? Currently it is under – Sports.

After:

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Thread Titled: Jets everywhere this morning??!!

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/07/02/jets-everywhere-this-morning

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Posted by Doubting Thomas, a resident of Midtown
26 minutes ago

Jet man- why don’t you tell us where you wantbto planes to go. Which city should they flyover instead of palo,alto? Do you have a viable solution or,is it just ” paloalto,is,special and should not be disturbed by anything? Shall we close SFO?
Palo,alto derives plenty of benefits from having SFO. Anyway, all these claims about air traffic in palo,alto are grossly exaggerated.

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Posted by Doubting Thomas, a resident of Midtown
34 minutes ago

Jet man- why don’t you tell us where you wantbto planes to go. Which city should they flyover instead of palo,alto? [Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled:  Editorial: For developers, tough sledding

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/27/editorial-for-developers-tough-sledding

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Posted by My Mama, a resident of Evergreen Park
8 hours ago

I wondered about the misspelling too.
My Mama taught me not to argue with anyone who doesn’t know how to spell his own name.

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Posted by Greenacres, a resident of Green Acres
5 hours ago

@Rupert,
The above article is entitled, “For developers, tough sledding”

Are you going to go after them for making a false statement, too? There’s no snow. No sleds. No rosebud. They said “sledding”!

I’m afraid I have to give up. The Weekly censor is letting you slam me but continually deleting all the history, context, and posts I have made in reply, except for my statement above protesting that it’s not fault.

Not fair, censors. Either put back the history so the context is there — everything I said about how involved the City was in the purchase of Maybell is possible to verify — or delete “Ruperts” repeated taunts.

@Rupert,
Are you claiming the City wasn’t involved in the purchase of the Maybell property? Are you claiming the City didn’t USE UP (the words I used) the affordable housing funds for the purchase of the Maybell property? Because if you are saying that, you are calling PAHC liars, because they claimed that in their own ads before Measure D.

The whole reason the City had first right of refusal on the Maybell property is because of how intimately they were involved in the sale. But who am I? Just someone who has seen a lot of documents related to the sale, like a lot of the neighbors.

Again, the City tied up those funds at Maybell, when they knew what was happening at BV. They had all of you eating out of their hands (and carrying water for them, too), when not only would that money have been better spent at BV, the citizen action against Maybell could easily have been redirected at that time in support of instead saving BV.

I’m constantly amazed that people who would claim there can be no affordable housing in Palo Alto ever again if we don’t upzone residential neigbhorhoods (despite the fact that 801 Alma was built within zoning) or engage in similar financing mechanisms that involve giant giveaways to for profit developers (despite 801 Alma being built without needing to), and that nothing is perfect so we have to accept whatever they say has to be done in order to get the housing, would not be pragmatic when it comes to choosing between realistically saving BV and tilting at windmills at Maybell.

The choice between saving over 400 low-income residences of existing Palo Altans with the possibility of no ultimate cost to the City, and a development costing tens of millions for 60 spots without any marketing study to show the need for that segment — if we’re being pragmatic, that’s easy.

@ Don’t Worry,
I hope you are right. We would all be better off here. Unfortunately, developers show no signs of giving up. I don’t know who you’ve been talking to, but I’m seeing the same anger at overdevelopment from Sunnyvale through Menlo Park. Many of those groups talk to each other now. It’s only a matter of time before we take up with that group in SF who rejected the upzoning at the waterfront.

I don’t know what you mean by “NIMBY” – if you mean against giant, ugly, overbuilt developments that destroy quality of life and overuse resources and infrastructure, then call away, and good riddance to them. If you mean against affordable housing, I hope you realize all the overdevelopment is actually working against affordable housing.

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Posted by Rupert of Henzau, a resident of Midtown
1 hour ago

“In the book it’s spelled Hentzau”

Correction–you are thinking of my cousin from the twin city of Hentzau. I am from Henzau. Different city.

“I wondered about the misspelling too.
My Mama taught me not to argue with anyone who doesn’t know how to spell his own name.”

My mama. Is that what you wonder about. My mama, Jan, told me to ignore petty people, who think they know how to spell someone’s name better than they do.

“Are you going to go after them for making a false statement, too? There’s no snow. No sleds. No rosebud. They said “sledding”! ”
No greenacres, since that is a metaphor. Very clear about that.

“The Weekly censor is letting you slam me but continually deleting all the history, context, and posts I have made in reply, except for my statement above protesting that it’s not fault.”
The weekly is not letting me “slam you”. I am just pointing the FACT that the city did not purchase Maybell. The PAHC did, with a LOAN from the city.

“or delete “Ruperts” repeated taunts.”
They are not taunts. I am just repeating a comment YOU MADE and pointing out what is wrong with it. I recall someone complaining about ad hominem attacks earlier, as well.

“Are you claiming the City wasn’t involved in the purchase of the Maybell property? Are you claiming the City didn’t USE UP (the words I used) the affordable housing funds for the purchase of the Maybell property?”
The city LOANED PAHC the money to purchase Maybell. The city never PURCHASED Maybell. I cannot say whether or not they used up any money, since i do not know how much money they had. And now with the re-sale of Maybell, the city has th emoney back, so that money was not used up at all.
Buena Vista is irrelevant to this discussion.

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Posted by My Mama, a resident of Evergreen Park
9 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by Greenacres, a resident of Green Acres
5 hours ago

[Portion removed.]

@Rupert,
Are you claiming the City wasn’t involved in the purchase of the Maybell property? Are you claiming the City didn’t USE UP (the words I used) the affordable housing funds for the purchase of the Maybell property? [Portion removed.]

The whole reason the City had first right of refusal on the Maybell property is because of how intimately they were involved in the sale. But who am I? Just someone who has seen a lot of documents related to the sale, like a lot of the neighbors.

[Portion removed.]

I’m constantly amazed that people who would claim there can be no affordable housing in Palo Alto ever again if we don’t upzone residential neigbhorhoods (despite the fact that 801 Alma was built within zoning) or engage in similar financing mechanisms that involve giant giveaways to for profit developers (despite 801 Alma being built without needing to), and that nothing is perfect so we have to accept whatever they say has to be done in order to get the housing, would not be pragmatic when it comes to choosing between realistically saving BV and tilting at windmills at Maybell.

The choice between saving over 400 low-income residences of existing Palo Altans with the possibility of no ultimate cost to the City, and a development costing tens of millions for 60 spots without any marketing study to show the need for that segment — if we’re being pragmatic, that’s easy.

@ Don’t Worry,
I hope you are right. We would all be better off here. Unfortunately, developers show no signs of giving up. I don’t know who you’ve been talking to, but I’m seeing the same anger at overdevelopment from Sunnyvale through Menlo Park. Many of those groups talk to each other now. It’s only a matter of time before we take up with that group in SF who rejected the upzoning at the waterfront.

I don’t know what you mean by “NIMBY” – if you mean against giant, ugly, overbuilt developments that destroy quality of life and overuse resources and infrastructure, then call away, and good riddance to them. If you mean against affordable housing, I hope you realize all the overdevelopment is actually working against affordable housing.

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Posted by Rupert of Henzau, a resident of Midtown
1 hour ago

“In the book it’s spelled Hentzau”

Correction–you are thinking of my cousin from the twin city of Hentzau. I am from Henzau. Different city.

[Portion removed.]

“Are you claiming the City wasn’t involved in the purchase of the Maybell property? Are you claiming the City didn’t USE UP (the words I used) the affordable housing funds for the purchase of the Maybell property?”
The city LOANED PAHC the money to purchase Maybell. The city never PURCHASED Maybell. I cannot say whether or not they used up any money, since i do not know how much money they had. And now with the re-sale of Maybell, the city has th emoney back, so that money was not used up at all.
Buena Vista is irrelevant to this discussion.

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Posted by Rupert of henzau, a resident of Midtown
1 minutes ago

“I said the CC used up the money in the affordable housing fund to purchase Maybell even as they knew what was happening at BV.”
okay, green acres the above is your quotation. You repeat it agin here. I previously copied and pasted it from a posting of yours that was edited. Note how you say that the CC used the money to PURCHASE Maybell.
I stated that your comment was false. The city never purchased Maybell. They leant the money to PAHC, a non profit developer, to help them purchase Maybell. I provided a link to a story showing that the money was a loan.

“So much of the context I wrote was deleted, so it’s hard for me to even begin to address this. But what I said was absolutely true. I never made the statement, as Rupert did, that the City bought the property. The City was intimately involved in the purchase, though, and used up the money in the affordable housing fund for that purpose. ”
Note your quotation, above, or look at your original posting, also above and see that you stated that the city bought the property. period . End of story. Anyway, BV is irrelevant to this discussion.
In this case there is no misrepresezentation by me. You clearly state that the city purchased Maybell, over and over again.

The City told PAHC to go after Maybell. The City committed millions toward the purchase, emptying all the money in the affordable housing fund for that purpose even as they knew what was happening at BV. (If you don’t believe me, see PAHC’s full-page ad before Measure D.) The land use attorney who looked at the docs said the City’s fingerprints are all over the purchase. Larry Klein’s law firm represented the buyer from what I was told.

“Again, it is absolutely true that the City used up the money in the affordable housing fund for the purchase of Maybell. ”
And since it was a LOAN, they now have the money back, but the city never owned Maybell.

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Posted by Rupert of henzau, a resident of Midtown
27 minutes ago

“I said the CC used up the money in the affordable housing fund to purchase Maybell even as they knew what was happening at BV.”
okay, green acres the above is your quotation. You repeat it agin here. I previously copied and pasted it from a posting of yours that was edited. Note how you say that the CC used the money to PURCHASE Maybell.
I stated that your comment was false. The city never purchased Maybell. They leant the money to PAHC, a non profit developer, to help them purchase Maybell. I provided a link to a story showing that the money was a loan.

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Posted by Greenacres, a resident of Green Acres
36 minutes ago

@Doubting Thomas,
Rupert restated what I said in a way that wasn’t true and then called it false.

I said the CC used up the money in the affordable housing fund to purchase Maybell even as they knew what was happening at BV.

So much of the context I wrote was deleted, so it’s hard for me to even begin to address this. But what I said was absolutely true. I never made the statement, as Rupert did, that the City bought the property. The City was intimately involved in the purchase, though, and used up the money in the affordable housing fund for that purpose.

The City told PAHC to go after Maybell. The City committed millions toward the purchase, emptying all the money in the affordable housing fund for that purpose even as they knew what was happening at BV. (If you don’t believe me, see PAHC’s full-page ad before Measure D.) The land use attorney who looked at the docs said the City’s fingerprints are all over the purchase. Larry Klein’s law firm represented the buyer from what I was told.

Again, it is absolutely true that the City used up the money in the affordable housing fund for the purchase of Maybell.

If the Weekly censor hadn’t deleted all the history and context I posted above, or had at least deleted the mischaracterization of what I said along with my counter, we would not have to have this back and forth. I really don’t know what to do about the biased censoring. Sorry, but I’m in this conversation with one hand tied behind my back by the biased censorship. It would help if those of you whose posts tend to just be to mischaracterize what other people say/create strawmen would focus on developing and writing your own opinions.

@ sunshine,
I agree with you, and used to think we needed district representation, too. But someone I really respect says she’s seen that turn into little fiefdoms, too. I think better that we have a paid full-time council so that not just rich people can afford to serve.

Instead of having these Councilmembers live in the area he/she represents, how about just making all of them live in the shadow of the most egregious developments they’ve approved, without cars, for a period of at least 5 years each, especially putting them in South Palo Alto where they think they can just dump whatever density they want? Kind of like slumlords having to live in their own rentals. I’m only half joking about that…

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Posted by Greenacres, a resident of Green Acres
1 hour ago

[Portion removed.]

@ sunshine,
I agree with you, and used to think we needed district representation, too. But someone I really respect says she’s seen that turn into little fiefdoms, too. I think better that we have a paid full-time council so that not just rich people can afford to serve.

Instead of having these Councilmembers live in the area he/she represents, how about just making all of them live in the shadow of the most egregious developments they’ve approved, without cars, for a period of at least 5 years each, especially putting them in South Palo Alto where they think they can just dump whatever density they want? [Portion removed.]

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Posted by Doubting Thomas, a resident of Midtown
1 hour ago

Green acres- Rupert’s statement is true . The city never bought the Maybell site.the money was a loan to the PAHC:
Web Link

What do,you claimis false about the statement?

After:

Posted by Doubting Thomas, a resident of Midtown

6 hours ago

[Post removed.]

Comment: Many comments edited/censored. I did not see most comments before being edited.

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Thread Titled: Page Mill Road YMCA to close Oct. 1

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/24/page-mill-road-ymca-to-close-oct-1

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Posted by Cancelled my membership, a resident of Green Acres
6 hours ago

I cancelled my membership there when I saw a YMCA map on the wall. It was a world map by YMCA. It didn’t show Israel. It was wiped off the map, it’s land assumed by its neighbors. There was a minor controversy in the papers about the map but no apology by the Y. So I cancelled my membership.

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of another community
2 hours ago

Dear Cancelled my membership,

“Wondering” responded to you before. Your comment along “wondering”s and few others disappeared, completly.

“Wondering” wrote:

YMCA Three Arches Hotel (Jerusalem):
Web Link

As a centre for learning, sport and culture, this YMCA is an important local landmark and a great place to spend a few nights. The hotel’s 56 rooms are simply furnished; you’re paying more for the atmosphere than the quality of rooms. You are also paying for the location in highbrow Mamilla; the hotel is directly opposite the prestigious King David Hotel. The Y has an excellent restaurant and use of gym and pool is included in the price.

Does this qualify as a Y in Israel?

I hope you see this before it disappears. Even I cannot understand how quoting and appropriately citing Lonely Planet’s web site violates the terms of use. While these comments may be off topic, I noticed threads that went totally off the topic track and remained intact.
Let me take this opportunity to commend, again, the Queen or King of this virtual world. Even I could not foresee the “New World” censoring this way.
What a nice way to promote my books, especially on my B-day.
Much obliged.

After:

Posted by Cancelled my membership, a resident of Green Acres
7 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of another community
3 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled:  What Kind of City is Palo Alto?

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/blogs/p/2014/05/12/what-kind-of-city-is-palo-alto

Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community,
59 minutes ago

@Steve Levy – “my” Palo Alto has threads locked and my comments disappear. I am writing to you here since this thread Web Link, for example, was locked completely after few of my comments addressing you vanished.
I think that this is a reflection of the way some are treated in Palo Alto, not only on line, also reflecting other hurdles.

I have posted few samples of editing/censoring here – Web Link .

After:

Gone, vanished. I posted this comment on June 15th, 2014. It remained intact for some time. I do not know when it disappeared.

The title of the thread is a question. I cannot argue with the statement that had my comment disappear.

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Thread Titled: Educators: Ending ‘tenure’ no magic bullet

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/17/educators-ending-tenure-no-magic-bullet

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
3 hours ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Dear Anony Mouse,
Let me join your last words.
Please accept my most sincere wishes and hopes for a meaningful discussion. While I wish I could participate, I cannot. The big brother is watching and seemingly arbitrarily censoring my comments. Seemingly to me, of course.
Good Luck
Goerge

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Thread Titled:  Palo Alto man robs, attacks group of teens playing with fireworks

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/18/palo-alto-man-robs-attacks-group-of-teens-playing-with-fireworks

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
23 minutes ago
George Orwell is a registered user.

Well Done! Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

Please do continue, what a lovely way to promote my books and writings in the “New World” and perfect timing too, my B-day in just couple of days.
Much obliged.

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Thread Titled: School Board Hopefuls – Positions Please

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/19/school-board-hopefuls—positions-please

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
52 minutes ago
George Orwell is a registered user.

Well Done! Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

Please do continue, what a lovely way to promote my books and writings in the “New World” and perfect timing too, just before my B-day next week.
Much obliged.

PS
Dear Queen or King of the virtual world – This is my fifth attempt. I am pretty sure it was an honest mistake that had my sincere praise removed.

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Comment – I cannot find this thread in Town Square list.  The thread was created by “care to opine?”

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Thread Titled: More PAUSD turnover

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/17/more-pausd-turnover

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Posted by observer, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

“It makes sense to get Zigler out of there, she has been a key member of a woefully underperforming special education leadership team. Funny thing is that Holly Wade is untouched and still drawing a huge salary.”

“coordinator of student services Tammy Zigler ”

I thought coordinator of student services was Brenda Carrillo? I was really hoping to see her name on this list, she has from my observation quietly been behind a lot of the problems involving the (agreed) woefully underperforming special ed leadership.

Is this rats fleeing a sinking ship, or fleeing even bigger rats left behind?

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Posted by observer, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
22 hours ago

I thought coordinator of student services was Brenda Carrillo? I was really hoping to see her name on this list, she has from my observation quietly been behind a lot of the problems involving the (agreed) woefully underperforming special ed leadership.

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
39 minutes ago

Sadly, these are old news. Last year all these issues were clearly present.
More than a year ago I addressed Ken Dauber calling him to form a PAUSD Shadow Board. I am well aware that it was a very unusual suggestion. I thought that an unusual situation where the most vulnerable kids may be in harms way calls for an unusual and immediate response/statement. Even a symbolic statement. I cannot see any mechanisms of checks and balances within the public school system. A shadow government can be one. Churchill headed one as the leader of the opposition.

About a year ago I wrote (Web Link):
“… It seems to me that no steps have been taken by those in charge to better identify the issues. Meanwhile – the public attention seems to be shifting , fast, from one issue to the other. None being properly addressed – I’ll just mention now the Gunn guidance issue that was on the agenda just very short time ago. I have mentioned, above that I think that nothing can be counted on, anymore… This week presented another issue – personnel.
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And yes, sadly, it is worse. Unfortunately. So I believe.

Posted by that stapler, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
51 minutes ago

Kim Cowell in the classroom? She’s probably rusty but maybe she can co-teach with Phil Winston and watch to make sure he doesn’t blurt out “black dong.” She can be on “black dong” alert. They can give her a panic button to push if he starts to mention any colors or shapes.

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
on Jun 18, 2014 at 5:50 am

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Posted by that stapler, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
16 hours ago

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Thread Titled: Why is Town Square So Out of Sync With Dominant Free Speech Norms of the Internet; or, is this Forum Not a Forum Anymore Due to Heavy-Handed Editing of Posts

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/18/why-is-town-square-so-out-of-sync-with-dominant-free-speech-norms-of-the-internet-or-is-this-forum-not-a-forum-anymore-due-to-heavy-handed-editing-of-posts

Original post made by village fool on Jun 18, 2014

I copied the title from a thread which was started by village idiot on Sep 9th, 2013. –Web LinkWhile the thread was locked completely, I think the issues discussed are still very relevant, and very important. More so these days.Village idiot – I hope you do not mind me using your title.And no, while I am obviously an idiot, I did not post the thread on September 9TH, 2013.

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Sorry. The topic you are looking for is no longer in the system.
Comment: I started the thread, it disappeared completely, fast. Thou should not discuss censorship. Where is Mr. J. Heller when I need him?

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Thread Titled:  Palo Alto school board backs challenge to U.S. agency

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/18/palo-alto-school-board-backs-challenge-to-us-agency

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
27 minutes ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Well Done! Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

Please do continue, what a lovely way to promote my books and writings in the “New World” and perfect timing too, just before my B-day.
Much obliged.

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Posted by Bill, a resident of Barron Park
2 minutes ago

Good luck with that anger thing, Bob.

Maybe you can explain how taking away tenure and firing teachers is going to cause more people to rush into low performing schools and work for the same (or as you seem to propose, less) money? How is that going to work exactly? It’s not like teaching is the same as serving food during the lunch rush or bolting carburetors into cars on an assembly line. Anybody can build some crazy metric as you did (and the plaintiffs did in their legal case) to show they were harmed. The problem is, how do you make things better? What’s going to protect good teachers from bad administrators, many of whom couldn’t hack it as teachers themselves?

This is simply a case of the libertarian spin machine aimed at destroying public education and a judge with “robe rage” – the legal case itself simply doesn’t add up. But, maybe it will generate enough interest so that we start to address some lingering issues with funding public education in California. In the end, I can’t help but think Palo Alto is going to come out worse as a result because we have some much more to lose than other districts.

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Posted by Bill, a resident of Barron Park
31 minutes ago

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Maybe you can explain how taking away tenure and firing teachers is going to cause more people to rush into low performing schools and work for the same (or as you seem to propose, less) money? How is that going to work exactly? It’s not like teaching is the same as serving food during the lunch rush or bolting carburetors into cars on an assembly line. Anybody can build some crazy metric as you did (and the plaintiffs did in their legal case) to show they were harmed. The problem is, how do you make things better? What’s going to protect good teachers from bad administrators, many of whom couldn’t hack it as teachers themselves?

This is simply a case of the libertarian spin machine aimed at destroying public education and a judge with “robe rage” – the legal case itself simply doesn’t add up. But, maybe it will generate enough interest so that we start to address some lingering issues with funding public education in California. In the end, I can’t help but think Palo Alto is going to come out worse as a result because we have some much more to lose than other districts.

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Posted by Thanks Weekly!, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
37 minutes ago

That’s your story about this ridiculous thing? Are you kidding? This makes their totally unreasonable act, which is tied in their own letter to Republican attacks on the White House and DOE sound perfectly reasonable. It allows Mitchell to make unchallenged and probably false claims about “evidence tampering” without noting that she has presented zero evidence to support that outrageous charge or to show that it in any way affected the outcome of anything. This is insane. Our schools have been taken over by right wing libertarian anti-Obama wingnuts and there is no adult minding that store. Nadir much?

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Posted by Thanks Weekly!, a resident of Barron Park
15 minutes ago

That’s your story about this ridiculous thing? [Portion removed.] It allows Mitchell to make unchallenged and probably false claims about “evidence tampering” without noting that she has presented zero evidence to support that outrageous charge or to show that it in any way affected the outcome of anything. [Portion removed.]

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Posted by interesting board meeting, a resident of Palo Alto High School
26 minutes ago

Last nights Board meeting was very uplifting. Many people stepped up to say their goodbyes to Dr. Skelly. I was surprised by how many people stated they appreciated the work he has done over the years and the many programs he supported. After always reading the Weekly, I’ve been tainted by Dr. Skelly but last nights Board meeting showed me a different side. And it was nice to see Dr. Skelly’s smile.

Also the Board unanimously voted in favor of the resolution even when several got up requesting the opposite, some quite adamantly. Some of the issues they mentioned in regards to supporting this resolution is that the process comes off as something bad before it is even investigated and that it takes a long time to investigate these issues. So during that time the teachers or staff feel this negative draw (especially from the media) even when the results eventually are in their favor. They reiterated that the best results from the OCR is “insufficient evidence to support discrimination”. That’s their highest rating even though this doesn’t sound as well as “not guilty”. And that the teachers, staff, board and even OCR is not allowed (for confidentiality) able to correct the facts when media and blogs get it wrong. So the news is very one sided.

They also kept mentioning about tampered evidence. I’m sure whoever tampered with the evidence does not want this resolution to go forward. Does anybody know anything about the tampered evidence? Was wondering if this is the real reason PAUSD wants to proceed?

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Posted by interesting board meeting, a resident of Palo Alto High School
1 hour ago

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

Comment: IP addresses. Any wonder that most do not want to log in when it is about kids?

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Thread Titled: Price tag for new Paly athletic center: $36 million to $40 million

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/13/price-tag-for-new-paly-athletic-center-36-million-to-40-million

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
14 minutes ago

@howlong:
your comments before being censored can be found here – Web Link

And here’s to our disagreement, bigotry wise: –
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one’s lifetime.” M. Twain

Posted by howlong, a resident of College Terrace
17 minutes ago

village f, what’s this about quoting M. Twain? lecturing me on bigotry? I just am asking why comments about the family’s contribution get to stay on here and others get erased.

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Comment: While I obviously cannot understand most of the censoring, removing Twain’s quote is beyond me.

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Posted by howlong, a resident of College Terrace
1 hour ago

let’s see, it’s o.k. to bash someone’s religion if the people with that religion are rich and give their money to causes they believe in. It might not be o.k. to bash a poor person’s religion.

? is that it?

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2 hours ago

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Posted by Craig Laughton, a resident of College Terrace
13 minutes ago

I am thankful that the Peery family has donated to Paly. To the bigots who oppose them, I would ask, do you also oppose plural marriage? Many pro-gay marriage people do. Maybe the Peery family, too, even given their past history with Brigham Young.

My main point is that such legitimate moral/legal disagreements should not get in the way of much needed donations to our school system. Thank you, Peery family…you are much appreciated.

We don’t need this hatred and bigotry on this particular thread. Just say, “thank you”.

Go Paly!

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Posted by howlong, a resident of College Terrace
6 minutes ago

yes, Craig Laughton, howlong is surprised that hatred and bigotry are having such a field day here!

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Posted by Craig Laughton, a resident of College Terrace
1 hour ago

I am thankful that the Peery family has donated to Paly. [Portion removed.]

My main point is that such legitimate moral/legal disagreements should not get in the way of much needed donations to our school system. Thank you, Peery family…you are much appreciated.

[Portion removed.] Just say, “thank you”.

Go Paly!

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58 minutes ago

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Posted by Peery Supported Prop 8, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
26 minutes ago

A public school district in the state of California should not accept money from someone who supported and donated to Prop 8 in the first place. Everytime I post this, it gets deleted but here goes: if the schools would not accept 24 million from a man who donates to pass anti-semitic laws why would it accept 24 million from a many who donates to pass anti-gay laws? Both Jewish people and gays were targeted by the Holocaust. Both Jewish people and gays have been victims of discrimination here in the United States. Anti-gay laws strip gay people of their humanity. People who hold anti-gay views should not be given honored status in a public education facility. What about someone who supported Japanese Internment or Jim Crow? Someday Prop 8 will be seen for what it properly is: a bigoted relic of a bygone era. But Paly will be saddled with a legacy of hate. The precise pricetag is ireelevant. it is the moral pricetag that matters.

Stand up for something that matters. The dollars are not the point.

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
3 minutes ago

@Peery Supported Prop 8Peery Supported Prop 8 – Yes, every time these issues are addressed the thread was restricted etc. Here is one sample – Web Link.
Interestingly, these issues remain connected. Thank you for reminding us all.

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Posted by Peery Supported Prop 8, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
2 hours ago

A public school district in the state of California should not accept money from someone who supported and donated to Prop 8 in the first place. [Portion removed.]

Stand up for something that matters. The dollars are not the point.

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1 hour ago

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Posted by wow, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
1 hour ago

I cannot believe the few negative nellies on this forum. Really!!! It sounds like somebody out there is drinking a little more than kool-aid and if it is 85 degrees and sunny out he or she will always find something to complain about.

Instead of being grateful a few want to point fingers and play the blame game etc….. what a sad few! I hope they can get professional help for their personality disorders and sad outlook on life.

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Posted by wow, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
2 hours ago

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Thread Titled: Editorial: A sadly misguided board

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/06/editorial-a-sadly-misguided-board

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Posted by Alice, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

Thank you Terry Lobdell for a well researched guide to this crazy Alice in Wonderland journey down a rabbit hole. I am ashamed that our district leadership thinks that this Resolution is a way out of this hole they have dug for themselves. We owe it to our children to uphold a higher standard. If we expect them to follow rules (cheating, streaking) we need to behave in a way that makes our children proud.

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Posted by Alice, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
3 hours ago

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

Comment: Dear Alice,

Please do mind your IP addresses, especially before breakfast.

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Posted by TheConnection, a resident of Palo Alto High School
12 hours ago

Okay – so Skelly had a chance to raise his concerns with OCR before he signed the resolution agreement in December? Why did he wait until May to bring this up? [Portion removed.]

Granted, he had chosen to keep everything secret from the Board before December, so maybe the [portion removed] complaints about this investigation are really coming from the board. Guess what? Too bad for them. Their chance to complain to OCR was squandered when Skelly chose to keep the whole matter secret from them. They bear the responsibility of his screw-ups.

But why the complaint letter now? To what purpose? It is an old case, where the district was late to sign an agreement, and late to register any complaints, and failed to discuss these issues during negotiations (which were held in secret from the Board). It is basically a done deal. The Board is playing Monday-morning quarterback if they imagine they can rewind this mess and complain to OCR at this late stage.

They should admit that mistakes were made in handling the Students issues, and mistakes were made in handling the OCR investigation and negotiation.

Then move on. Let it go. Focus on fixing the broken sites. Use the new powers of termination to let go of some of the site administration and teachers who bungle this kind of stuff. It will send a strong message that the Board really does want to make schools a safe environment for students.

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Posted by TheConnection, a resident of Palo Alto High School
40 minutes ago

One correction upon re-reading all the sources above. I assumed Skelly was ignorant of the process. It appears however that he knew the Letter of Findings would be issued as he had missed the deadline before the Investigation Concluded.

So, my assumption of his ignorance is incorrect. He was simply misleading the board. And the board, having also been informed of the process is engaging in some duplicity with the public.

The Board was informed of the procedures; their letter complaining otherwise is just nonsense

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Posted by TheConnection, a resident of Palo Alto High School
48 minutes ago

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Posted by Josef Stalin, a resident of another community
7 hours ago

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osted by Huh?, a resident of Community Center
6 hours ago

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Comment:  Well, rehashing – IP addresses… Hello Stalin!!!!

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Posted by Edmund Burke, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago
@theater

I agree with “Time To Let Go” and will also give my views on your question. You ask what is the relationship between rape culture and the issues of streaking and also of the fact that Phil Winston was found by the district to have engaged in sexual harassment by creating a hostile sexual environment at Paly.

First, I wonder why you ask about how these things are related. You appear to be operating under the mistaken impression that OCR’s Compliance Review is somehow limited to the issue of rape culture. This is a fallacy, and one that I have heard repeated over and over by school board members, district lawyers, and district staff. It is incorrect. While the rape culture articles are one way that the district’s sexual harassment issues at Paly first came to the attention of federal civil rights investigators, their Compliance Review was not in any way limited to those issues.

Indeed, their Compliance Review letter notified the district that they were investigating “sexual harassment’ at Paly during the date range of 2011-13. There is no mention in the notification letter that the review is limited only or in any way to issues covered by the Verde. The Verde article merely alerted OCR to the potential existence of a problem.

Although the district has stalled and delayed this investigation shamelessly by trying to argue, as you do, that these other issues are somehow beyond the scope, this is a frivolous argument.

Second, there is a reason for this that is very good. A school with a rampant rape culture that leads to the serious harassment and hostile environment for students is one that may well have other problems with the leadership. In this case, that suspicion bore fruit, because during the time in question, the leader of the school (and the officer of the school who was charged with Title IX compliance at the site level was Phil Winston. Phil Winston was himself engaged in sexual harassment and it is no accident or coincidence that he also failed to respond properly to the peer sexual harassment on campus. That is a clear relationship.

In addition, the streaking that created a sexually hostile environment possibly for staff and students was also inadequately responded to by Phil Winston, who was himself found to be a sexual harasser and specifically to make comments about the naked breasts of underage female streakers on his campus.

All of these issues are related and properly under investigation through the Compliance Review.

The district has used frivolous discovery abuse tactics to stall and resist this investigation. It has not cooperated in good faith in my opinion. It has tried on two different tactics to get OCR to stop its investigation, claiming that there was no problem while at the same time firing its own principal for sexual harassment. The district knew that there was a hostile sexual environment on campus due to Phil Winston at the very time that it was telling OCR that there was no issue. That is a frivolous claim, intended to stall and stop a legitimate investigation.

The school board has not behaved properly and this attack on OCR in which it calls OCR “unfair” and accuses it essentially of misconduct is an attack on the Obama administration. It will surely wind up on Fox News. If you, the public of Palo Alto do not want to be featured on Fox News as a school district fighting Obama and defending rape culture, then please do not spend your time posting here. Do something that will be effective and help to stop the board from ruining the reputation of this community.

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Posted by Edmund Burke, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
8 hours ago
@theater

I agree with “Time To Let Go” and will also give my views on your question. You ask what is the relationship between rape culture and the issues of streaking and also of the fact that Phil Winston was found by the district to have engaged in sexual harassment by creating a hostile sexual environment at Paly.

First, I wonder why you ask about how these things are related. You appear to be operating under the mistaken impression that OCR’s Compliance Review is somehow limited to the issue of rape culture. This is a fallacy, and one that I have heard repeated over and over by school board members, district lawyers, and district staff. It is incorrect. While the rape culture articles are one way that the district’s sexual harassment issues at Paly first came to the attention of federal civil rights investigators, their Compliance Review was not in any way limited to those issues.

Indeed, their Compliance Review letter notified the district that they were investigating “sexual harassment’ at Paly during the date range of 2011-13. There is no mention in the notification letter that the review is limited only or in any way to issues covered by the Verde. The Verde article merely alerted OCR to the potential existence of a problem.

Although the district has stalled and delayed this investigation shamelessly by trying to argue, as you do, that these other issues are somehow beyond the scope, this is a frivolous argument.

Second, there is a reason for this that is very good. A school with a rampant rape culture that leads to the serious harassment and hostile environment for students is one that may well have other problems with the leadership. In this case, that suspicion bore fruit, because during the time in question, the leader of the school (and the officer of the school who was charged with Title IX compliance at the site level was Phil Winston. Phil Winston was himself engaged in sexual harassment and it is no accident or coincidence that he also failed to respond properly to the peer sexual harassment on campus. That is a clear relationship.

In addition, the streaking that created a sexually hostile environment possibly for staff and students was also inadequately responded to by Phil Winston, who was himself found to be a sexual harasser and specifically to make comments about the naked breasts of underage female streakers on his campus.

All of these issues are related and properly under investigation through the Compliance Review.

The district has used frivolous discovery abuse tactics to stall and resist this investigation. It has not cooperated in good faith in my opinion. It has tried on two different tactics to get OCR to stop its investigation, claiming that there was no problem while at the same time firing its own principal for sexual harassment. The district knew that there was a hostile sexual environment on campus due to Phil Winston at the very time that it was telling OCR that there was no issue. That is a frivolous claim, intended to stall and stop a legitimate investigation.

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Posted by Edmund Burke, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
6 minutes ago
As the excellent comments from Laura’s Mom point out, there are at least 2 ways that the district strikes me as being not credible in its complaints about OCR:1. The district contends that there is some risk to students from being interviewed by OCR without direct parental consent when such sensitive topics and dating violence or sexual harassment are being discussed. Yet the district has no procedures and no history itself of obtaining or ensuring parental consent or presence when the district interviews students on these specific issues.”Laura” was interviewed by Trinity Klein about an actual eyewitness report of abuse by her former boyfriend and yet parents were not even notified. That egregious mistake is exactly what has cooked the district’s goose in that case. The district failed to even notify parents, let alone obtain their presence or consent, so for the district to come with those unclean hands and demand that OCR not conduct any interviews with students unless and until parents not only are notified but give specific written permission, is just laughable.In the Paly case, there was no trained sexual assault interviewer who talked to the students who heard or were subject to the specific egregious behaviors of Phil Winston. By all evidence, no trained sexual assault or harassment investigator was hired by the district (although such investigators exist) to come in and meet with the student whose earrings were stroked, the student who was harassed following her sexual assault, the students who were victimized by rape culture, the student to whom Phil Winston commented on another underage girl’s naked breasts, the teacher who was the recipient of Phil’s comment that the only reason that white girls liked an African American boy was for his “black dong,” or anyone else. Parents were not notified. Parents were not invited to attend the interview of their child with a trained investigator, because none was utilized.The district investigation of rape culture was nonexistent and the district investigation of Phil was brief, did not include interviews of students, and was pre-empted by his “voluntary” resignation and reassignment as a special education teacher with vulnerable middle school students.The district’s condition for interviews of high school students are outrageous given the district’s own performance. The district wants a district official present. That in itself tells you that their motive is to protect themselves, not the students.The district is not credible. Their resistance to student interviews is merely a stall and delay tactic borrowed from aggressive litigation tactics. If this was litigation it would be seen as a discovery abuse. It is appalling.To quote former Mayor Bechtel, “time for a change.” The fact that the “resolution” was unanimous means any change will have to be decisive and across the board.

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Posted by Edmund Burke, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

As the excellent comments from Laura’s Mom point out, there are at least 2 ways that the district strikes me as being not credible in its complaints about OCR:

1. The district contends that there is some risk to students from being interviewed by OCR without direct parental consent when such sensitive topics and dating violence or sexual harassment are being discussed. Yet the district has no procedures and no history itself of obtaining or ensuring parental consent or presence when the district interviews students on these specific issues.

“Laura” was interviewed by Trinity Klein about an actual eyewitness report of abuse by her former boyfriend and yet parents were not even notified. That egregious mistake is exactly what has cooked the district’s goose in that case. The district failed to even notify parents, let alone obtain their presence or consent, so for the district to come with those unclean hands and demand that OCR not conduct any interviews with students unless and until parents not only are notified but give specific written permission, is just laughable.

In the Paly case, there was no trained sexual assault interviewer who talked to the students who heard or were subject to the specific egregious behaviors of Phil Winston. By all evidence, no trained sexual assault or harassment investigator was hired by the district (although such investigators exist) to come in and meet with the student [portion removed.] Parents were not notified. Parents were not invited to attend the interview of their child with a trained investigator, because none was utilized.

The district investigation of rape culture was nonexistent and the district investigation of Phil was brief, did not include interviews of students, and was pre-empted by his “voluntary” resignation and reassignment as a special education teacher with vulnerable middle school students.

The district’s condition for interviews of high school students are outrageous given the district’s own performance. The district wants a district official present. That in itself tells you that their motive is to protect themselves, not the students.

The district is not credible. Their resistance to student interviews is merely a stall and delay tactic borrowed from aggressive litigation tactics. If this was litigation it would be seen as a discovery abuse. It is appalling.

To quote former Mayor Bechtel, “time for a change.” The fact that the “resolution” was unanimous means any change will have to be decisive and across the board.

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Thread Titled: In unanimous resolution, Palo Alto school district challenges federal agency

link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/06/04/in-unanimous-resolution-palo-alto-school-district-challenges-federal-agency

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Thread Titled: School board releases superintendent contract

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/30/school-board-releases-superintendent-contract

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Posted by hr, a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
1 hour ago

@No More Pie . whatever. keep rambling.

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Posted by hr, a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
4 hours ago

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Thread Titled: School district leadership fires back at feds

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/31/district-leadership-fires-back-at-feds

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Posted by Mcchrystal, a resident of College Terrace
31 minutes ago

I can’t wait for max’s first briefing on this crap. Hey boss we’re in a shooting war with the Feds over whether we could conceal our sexual harassing principal at Paly while having naked teenagers rampaging across campus a hundred times a month. Plus rape culture! Also we let a disabled girl be punched in the face. Those Feds are the problem. Here’s your rifle max. Go get em. This clown car of Charlie Foxtrots is about to have a new boss. Wonder how that’ll go?

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57 minutes ago

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Posted by Fact check, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
22 minutes ago

“Why is PAUSD driving a red Ferrari within the speed limits and abiding by the laws as shown by all the cases the motorcycle policeman has bought being thrown out of court? There is nothing inherently wrong with driving a red Ferrrari abiding by the laws. ”

This statement is false. PAUSD is one of the few districts in the country to have been found guilty of violating federal civil rights law for failing to protect a child suffering from disability-based harassment. The district also entered into a resolution agreement to settle another case, in which they failed to follow correct 504 procedures.

You can assert that these cases are too minor to matter, but it does not help your case to attempt to strengthen it with falsehoods.

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Posted by Fact check, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
4 hours ago

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Thread Titled: Women tell of high school partners who harassed, assaulted them

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/23/women-tell-of-high-school-partners-who-harassed-assaulted-them

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Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
41 minutes ago
Hmmm is a registered user.

Seriously, why aren’t you responding appropriately to my questions? The questions are relevant. How are my questions affecting the safety of the victims? Answer: they aren’t.

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Thread Titled: Glenn ‘Max’ McGee accepts Palo Alto superintendent job

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/23/glenn-max-mcgee-offered-palo-alto-superintendent-job

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
22 minutes ago
@Chill Pill – The following is part of my recent post:

“….
When the new principal of Palo Alto high was announced last year, the Weekly published an article titled: “New Paly Principal Knows Her Way Around Campus” (link #8). Again – the second part of the broom quote comes to mind.

The following is a partial list of questions I asked myself, particularly in light of the recently published allegations around the prior principal’s actions and his subsequent demotion.

I do hope that these questions were properly considered:

1. Was Ms. Diorio aware of the sexual harassment allegations that were investigated by PAUSD officials before those became a cause for PAUSD official’s investigation?
1.1 – If Ms. Diorio was aware of the allegations:
1.1.1 Where did she take the info?
1.1.2 – If she was aware, and did not forward the info, why didn’t she? (Was it because she was afraid of retaliation?)
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1.2 If Ms. Diorio was not aware of the allegations –

1.2.1 Was she approachable to the woman who felt harassed?
1.2.2 How come she was not aware?
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2. Streaking, campus culture, etc. sampling –


The above copied from my blog- Web Link

I wonder if you think that these questions are called for, especially given the fact that the community was not aware of the circumstances behind the departure of the previous principal?

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
2 hours ago

@Chill Pill – The following is part of my recent post:

“….
When the new principal of Palo Alto high was announced last year, the Weekly published an article titled: “New Paly Principal Knows Her Way Around Campus” (link #8). Again – the second part of the broom quote comes to mind.

The following is a partial list of questions I asked myself, particularly in light of the recently published allegations around the prior principal’s actions and his subsequent demotion.

I do hope that these questions were properly considered:

1. Was Ms. Diorio aware of the sexual harassment allegations that were investigated by PAUSD officials before those became a cause for PAUSD official’s investigation?
1.1 – If Ms. Diorio was aware of the allegations:
1.1.1 Where did she take the info?
1.1.2 – If she was aware, and did not forward the info, why didn’t she? (Was it because she was afraid of retaliation?)
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1.2 If Ms. Diorio was not aware of the allegations –

1.2.1 Was she approachable to the woman who felt harassed?
1.2.2 How come she was not aware?
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2. Streaking, campus culture, etc. sampling –

I wonder if you think that these questions are called for, especially given the fact that the community was not aware of the circumstances behind the departure of the previous principal?

Comment: The line “The above copied from my blog- Web Link”  disappeared without a note that portion was removed. 

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I posted the following, comment #2:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
2 hours ago

@Moderator – You forgot to place [portion removed] when you removed my citing of the above –

The above copied from my blog- Web Link

Will you kindly add [portion removed]? or, will you kindly remove the above post altogether? I do wonder why you remove source citing.

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Comment #2 disappeared completely. I posted comment #3:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
10 minutes ago

I am posting, again, below, a comment I posted yesterday. This comment was removed completely without leaving a trace that I ever posted:

@Moderator – You forgot to place [portion removed] when you removed my citing of the above –

The above copied from my blog- Web Link

Will you kindly add [portion removed]? or, will you kindly remove the above post altogether? I do wonder why you remove source citing.

After -#4 – final:

My comment above responding to Chill Pill vanished along comment #3.  I do appreciate the moderator responding to my request, removing my original post altogether if [portion removed]  is not added. However, I cannot understand why the moderator insisted on editing my original post without  even  indicating that my post was edited.

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Thread Titled: Title IX issues raised in latest federal civil-rights case

Link: http://paloaltoonline.com/news/2014/05/23/title-ix-issues-raised-in-latest-federal-civil-rights-case

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Posted by Isn’t Title IX a store on Hamilton Street?, a resident of Community Center
7 minutes ago

Well done Charles Young. You will be getting the best fruit basket of all time this Christmas from Fagan Friedman and Fulfrost. You can put it next to your lump of coal from the taxpayers.

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Posted by Isn’t Title IX a store on Hamilton Street?, a resident of Community Center
8 hours ago

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
33 minutes ago

George Orwell is a registered user.

Bravo! Restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

“Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.” G. Orwell

Looking back I would have articulated a bit more:
Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed, when someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations.

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May 25, 2014 Comment – the above comment  was re-posted after I noted the above. So far it was not removed.

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Thread Titled: School board heads to Illinois to vet superintendent nominee

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/21/school-board-heads-to-illinois-to-vet-superintendent-nominee

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Posted by geez, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
58 minutes ago

Someone got the wrong memo. Re: Charles Young, it should have been FIRING him, not FLYING him around.

This sort of things just costs us money and makes those who have to make the decision feel sorry for him. That’s how someone that incompetent manages to keep hanging on.

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Posted by geez, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 21, 2014 at 11:17 pm

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Posted by Kevin, a resident of Greendell/Walnut Grove
1 hour ago

Kevin is a registered user.

@parent Yes. There are people in Palo Alto who will complain about EVERYTHING, no matter what the decision is.

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Posted by Kevin, a resident of Greendell/Walnut Grove
on May 21, 2014 at 11:50 pm

Kevin is a registered user.

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Posted by geez, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
13 minutes ago

And yet, incompetent people like Charles Young are still pulling 6-figure salaries and going on junkets with people who should be sending him packing (and I don’t mean for more junkets).

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Posted by geez, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 22, 2014 at 12:14 am

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Thread Titled: Wisconsin principal named to head Gunn High School

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/16/wisconsin-principal-named-to-head-gunn-high-school

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Posted by Paly Alum, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
37 minutes ago
Paly Alum is a registered user.

If this principal had a cheating scandal at her high school, it means she was letting the teachers run the show instead of being the enforcer for less stress on students. Sounds like she is a figurehead who is coming to Palo Alto for the salary rather than making any positive changes.

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Posted by Paly Alum, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
8 hours ago

Paly Alum is a registered user.

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
51  minutes ago
George Orwell is a registered user.

bravo! restrict the thread, silence the discussion!

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Posted by Best Wishes, a resident of Fairmeadow
11 minutes ago

@Palo Alto Native:

Agreed, the Chinese influx has had a profound impact on the values and culture in our high schools. The myopic focus on grades and “perceived” intelligence has increased competition for “grades” versus “education,” which has increased cheating in order to achieve “grades.” I’m not blaming the Chinese immigrants for the cheating, only the clash of cultures that has resulted in kids trying to be successful in a blended culture. Chinese culture has kids studying constantly with few distractions while American kids are more engaged in sports and extra-curricular activities that take time away from studying.

Sparty commented, “there is more than one type of “Asian.”” Personally, I have found most of the Asian cultures to be very similar to each other when viewed in contrast to the American. In any case, Chinese-Americans are the majority of Asians here in Palo Alto and thus their culture stands out as the predominant “Asian” stereotype. If someone wants to make a case for how the various Asian cultures differ when it comes to education I would be very interested to learn.

Of course, those originating from India are also Asian, though most people do not even realize it and thus do not lump them in to the “Asian” stereotype.

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Posted by Best Wishes, a resident of Fairmeadow
on May 18, 2014 at 11:24 pm

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Posted by Cheesy, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 hours ago
Denise Herrmann will be adequate, not a star in any respect, stars won’t be applying to Palo Alto for at least three years, or until the new superintendent and board can stop the hemorrhaging of suicides, OCR, rape culture, Brown Act violations, counseling quality, and a whole bunch of lawsuits, or what is also know as the reign of last seven years of Kevin Skelly. Herrmann has had a difficult 2013 in Middleton, there was motivation to leave, and that is common. Don’t expect much of her and you will be satisfied.

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Posted by Cheesy, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 17, 2014 at 7:13 am

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
23 minutes ago
“Just recalling” provided above link to a Campanile article about recent cheating in AP Psych- Web Link.
The article seem to reflect an ongoing cultural issue – Out of the mouth of Palo alto High school journalist.

Is anyone aware of any follow up?

The following comment was posted on July 13th, 2013 on the thread which brought us the news about PAUSD board’s secret meetings – Web Link

Posted by insider, a resident of another community
on Jul 13, 2013 at 11:42 am

Phil Winston’s departure was welcomed by nearly all PAHS teachers. Only thing better would be that it happened sooner. He made a mockery of school policies Re: cheating, grading, & attendance. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]

“Insiders”s original comment (before being edited) can be found here – Web Link

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
on May 18, 2014 at 3:33 pm

“Just recalling” provided above link to a Campanile article about recent cheating in AP Psych- Web Link.
The article seem to reflect an ongoing cultural issue – Out of the mouth of Palo alto High school journalist.

Is anyone aware of any follow up?

The following comment was posted on July 13th, 2013 on the thread which brought us the news about PAUSD board’s secret meetings – Web Link

Posted by insider, a resident of another community
on Jul 13, 2013 at 11:42 am

Phil Winston’s departure was welcomed by nearly all PAHS teachers. Only thing better would be that it happened sooner. He made a mockery of school policies Re: cheating, grading, & attendance. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]

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Thread Titled: Board selects top candidate to lead Palo Alto schools

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/16/board-selects-top-candidate-to-lead-palo-alto-schools#comment_form

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Posted by parent, a resident of Community Center
5 minutes ago
volunteer,

It’s become really clear that the same complainers pop up on TS with some very bitter positions. It would be nice to say to ignore them, but I agree that there appears to give pleasure to some people to actually do the district harm.

Whatever happened to Edmund Burke anyway. The naysayers seem to have lost a leader who has a name, even if it was a fake name. What remains are village fool,re-posting the same stories over and over again to stir the pot, ad re-directing to his/her blog.

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Posted by parent, a resident of Community Center
15 hours ago

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
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@Moderator – May I suggest, respectfully to consider linking this thread also to the ‘Schools & Kids” category (it is ‘around town’ now).

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

@Peter Carpenter – You are stunned, rightfully so. Thank you for taking the time to write trivial common sense.
“This is the way they work. If they do not talk about it, maybe people will think that the problem does not exist.” – Ms. Gaona Mendoza Web Link

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
on May 18, 2014 at 10:46 pm

@Peter Carpenter – You are stunned, rightfully so. Thank you for taking the time to write trivial common sense.
“This is the way they work. If they do not talk about it, maybe people will think that the problem does not exist.” – Ms. Gaona Mendoza
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Comment: The “portion Removed” is a link to my post sharing my take   about Ms. Gaona -Mendoza’s quote. I saw many links to other blogs, made by the bloggers  that remained intact.

I started this blog since i was deleted many times, and I could not understand the censoring.

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Gone, obviously. I actually think that this is a decent post, I cannot see how I violated to terms of use here.

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Thread Tilted: Overdevelopment Humor – The Joke’s Not Just on Us!

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/16/overdevelopment-humor—the-jokes-not-just-on-us

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Original post made by Greenacres on May 16, 2014

These things come up everyday, we may as well share them:Hey East Meadow, the Chicago River called, they want St. Patrick’s Day back!(Go drive up East Meadow from El Camino Wy, you’ll get it, and the next one:)What’s the treatment for eyesores?Please share your overdevelopment humor here
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Posted by Greenacres, a resident of Green Acres
17 minutes ago

The answer from someone else in the household:

What the treatment for eyesores?

There’s no cure, but a successful elective procedure could stop the cancerous growth…

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Thread Titled: Principals named for Addison, Fairmeadow and Ohlone

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/06/principals-named-for-addison-fairmeadow-and-ohlone

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
19 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

Off-topic comment:

@Crescent Park Dad – as it turns out, nobody wants to “just sign up. Use your screen name and you can still comment”, especially when it is about schools & kids.
This occurrence had me start a thread back on June 2013 Asking:
@recent and frequent commentators – will you kindly share why you stop posting when threads become available only to those who are logged in?

Here is a link: Web Link

(“Nice Haircut”s comment, before it was edited, can be found on my blog – Web Link)

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
on May 13, 2014 at 12:49 am

village fool is a registered user.

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Posted by Althouse in the outhouse, a resident of Jordan Middle School
52 minutes ago

Threats, capricious retaliation, lies, and horrible follow through are our experiences with him at Jordan. He acts like he knows what he is doing and tries to snow parents, but he is criminally under informed on education law. Pretty face and nice manners hide total lack of content. Fast track grooming him for principal position is going to backfire big time. Cost the city and our kids big time.

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Posted by Althouse in the outhouse, a resident of Jordan Middle School
1 hour ago

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Posted by congratulations, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
33 minutes ago

Feel sorry,

As a non-IEP, I am concerned for the rest of the kids whose admins spend nearly all of their time and efforts on IEP’s.

An “Individualized Education Program” can’t be easy for teachers, students, parents or admins in the big schools. I can’t imagine an angel being good at it.

When you hear of the litigious special ed situations, the familiar complaints here on TS which appear to be the same person sometimes, it sounds pretty bad. All it takes is one or two of these hard cases to overwhelm a district, the same must happen at each school, and each classroom.

Given the negative tones from you and Where is the beef, I wonder, do you volunteer at the schools? Do you run some traditions for the kids? Do you contribute to PIE?

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Posted by congratulations, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on May 10, 2014 at 9:54 am

Feel sorry,

As a non-IEP, I am concerned for the rest of the kids whose admins spend nearly all of their time and efforts on IEP’s.

An “Individualized Education Program” can’t be easy for teachers, students, parents or admins in the big schools. I can’t imagine an angel being good at it.

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Posted by congratulations, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
24 minutes ago

Outhouse,

From what I have heard, TS can protect you only so much from attacking someone personally here. If you’re lucky, they can catch your comment and erase it. If I were the individuals who get slandered here, I would follow through and find you and make you famous.

So much for congratulating the new Principals here. Saying something nice seems to get others angry.

I’m out of here.

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Posted by congratulations, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
45 minutes ago

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Thread Titled: Palo Alto school board members praise counseling reforms

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/07/palo-alto-school-board-members-praise-counseling-reforms

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Posted by Pleeze, a resident of Greendell/Walnut Grove
3 hours ago

Haven’t we all had enough of the BS from the current Supe and Board? This article only reminds me of everything that has been wrong with the current regime and I can’t wait for Tom and Mitchell to leave along with Skelly.

Time for a a whole district tune up starting with honesty.

Enough Pleeeeeeeze!

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Posted by Pleeze, a resident of Greendell/Walnut Grove
8 hours ago

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

Question:  Does the “post removed due to same poster using multiple names” end justify the  “IP Address” means? What about comments vanishing without a trace?

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Thread titled: New OCR case opened as another is closed

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/05/new-ocr-case-opened-as-another-is-closed

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Posted by Mom, a resident of Green Acres
36 minutes ago

It could also have something to do with the fact that sexual harassment is a high national issue, at the White House, on TV, in the newspapers — this is a top priority for our country.

I am having trouble with these people who are suggesting that there is something wrong with stopping rape. Is this a Republican Party stronghold? Is it that it’s not “legitimate rape” if it happens in PAUSD? What the hell is wrong with you people? This is sexual abuse of our students. Some people are brave enough to stand up for victims. All you can do is wonder why our excellent district is being inestigated?

Here’s the reason: because of rape.

Do you like rape? Do you like sexual assault? Do you have some problem with the feds coming to protect our girls? Someone had to do it. Maybe they should have asked Phil Winston to protect them. After he got done stroking their ears and commenting on their naked boobs and backrubboing the teachers and asking the boys if they got a lot of pussy I’m sure he would have rushed right to the task. Or maybe Charles Young would have helped them, just as soon as five years into the job he attended his training on sexual assault and learned what Title IX was.

Get real. Rape is serious. Dating violence is serious. Stop defending the indefensible.

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Posted by Mom, a resident of Green Acres
3 hours ago

It could also have something to do with the fact that sexual harassment is a high national issue, at the White House, on TV, in the newspapers — this is a top priority for our country.

I am having trouble with these people who are suggesting that there is something wrong with stopping rape. Is this a Republican Party stronghold? Is it that it’s not “legitimate rape” if it happens in PAUSD? What the hell is wrong with you people? This is sexual abuse of our students. Some people are brave enough to stand up for victims. All you can do is wonder why our excellent district is being inestigated?

Here’s the reason: because of rape.

Do you like rape? Do you like sexual assault? Do you have some problem with the feds coming to protect our girls? Someone had to do it. [Portion removed.]

Get real. Rape is serious. Dating violence is serious. Stop defending the indefensible.

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Posted by an idea, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 hours ago

Perhaps the large # of cases against PAUSD reflects the need for training cases for overeager Stanford Law students and their faculty advisers working pro bono?

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Posted by an idea, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
8 hours ago

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Thread Titled: What can be done about teachers being too rigorous?

Link :http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/28/what-can-be-done-about-teachers-being-too-rigorous

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Posted by perhaps, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hours ago

well done everyone,

Your handle says plenty and you go on to make yourself sound very smart. What role do teachers have? Most industries self-regulate to some extent. They make themselves better, and I’m not referring to the millions of dollars that the district spends on professional development, which does nothing to correct a real problem.

I will go with mom of teenager’s definition of the problem. “There are some teachers, thankfully not too many, that simply shouldn’t be teaching. They are deliberately mean. They don’t teach the subject. They simply don’t care if the kids learn or even worse, enjoy making them miserable.” or your definition “It’s not that some teachers aren’t problems, anyone would acknowledge that.”

The schools are unresponsive. You can’t work with anyone that is unresponsive. The suggestion for parents to work together is interesting, how? If TS makes teachers defensive, try parents working together against a teacher. Parents and students don’t have time to work on dealing with a problem teacher they will never have again, there are no brownie points for complaining.

Parents and students leave, teachers stay – what do teachers do about this issue?

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Posted by perhaps, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
15 hours ago

well done everyone,

[Portion removed.]
What role do teachers have? Most industries self-regulate to some extent. They make themselves better, and I’m not referring to the millions of dollars that the district spends on professional development, which does nothing to correct a real problem.

I will go with mom of teenager’s definition of the problem. “There are some teachers, thankfully not too many, that simply shouldn’t be teaching. They are deliberately mean. They don’t teach the subject. They simply don’t care if the kids learn or even worse, enjoy making them miserable.” or your definition “It’s not that some teachers aren’t problems, anyone would acknowledge that.”

The schools are unresponsive. You can’t work with anyone that is unresponsive. The suggestion for parents to work together is interesting, how? If TS makes teachers defensive, try parents working together against a teacher. Parents and students don’t have time to work on dealing with a problem teacher they will never have again, there are no brownie points for complaining.

Parents and students leave, teachers stay – what do teachers do about this issue?

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Thread Titled: What happened to home delivery of the Weekly?

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/03/what-happened-to-home-delivery-of-the-weekly

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Original post made by i like to read thepaper! on May 3, 2014

I just realized that I haven’t seen the print Weekly come to my house for a while. I know they switched to a newspaper delivery system, and I got that when they first switched, but it hasn’t been coming for over a month. Is everyone else still receiving it?
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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto
8 hours ago

i like to read thepaper!,
May I try to help? Kindly check this thread, you may find the information you are seeking- Web Link
I was pleased to see that the thread I listed above was restricted. While even I cannot understand the reason, I commend any action taken to promote my books, and show that my writings are very relevant in the “New World”, thirty years after 1984.

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Thread Titled: Three preparing bids for Palo Alto school board

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/05/02/three-preparing-bids-for-palo-alto-school-board

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
3 hours ago

@Moderator –
Thank you for not “deleting me” completely!

I am grateful.
I do count my blessing.

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Gone. Vanished. My post remained intact for a while, I thought that this may be a good sign as to the way my comments are treated, but  I was wrong, again. No trace that I even posted. I posted four times on this thread. Two postings disappeared without a trace, one of those was my suggestion to move the thread to the appropriate category. The thread was moved, my respectful suggestion disappeared.

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Posted by Kool Aid Sounds Good Actually, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
2 minutes ago

@Dislike Mean Posts – yes, I do think my post added value. The prior post accused residents of having a false belief that the schools are good quality. Pointing out that the housing prices are high, largely I believe because of the schools’ reputation, suggests that the poster’s broad generalization is probably wrong. Not sure why you found that low value or mean – it just stated the fact and pointed out the relationship. While I disagreed, I don’t see how it denigrated the previous poster (though that poster accused all of us of “drinking the cool-aid” which seemed kind of mean to me).

You think go on to mock me for observing that it is hard to judge other school districts that your kids don’t attend. While you are right that you can research districts, looking at SARC reports and API scores is in my view a too limited way of judging school quality. As an teacher one told me, API scores tell you more about the price and homogeneity of the homes near the school than the quality of the teaching in it. That was well said I think. So I’m honestly not sure how I would judge the quality of, say, others districts on the Peninsula, much less in other parts of the country, given the differences in demographics, income, etc. So I stand by my comment.

“Sorry, but posts that add no value and only seek to denigrate others who are actively trying to contribute intelligently to the discussion really irritate me.”

Not to be judg-y, but I think it would fair to say that your post was mean to mean (you mocked me!) and didn’t add much value. But that’s ok! I’m not irritated, even though you are – it’s all just part of the conversation.

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Posted by Kool Aid Sounds Good Actually, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
10 minutes ago

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Posted by Dislike Mean Posts, a resident of Community Center
1 hour ago

@Kool Aid Sounds Good Actually: Do you really feel you are adding value to the discussion? Just curious and would like to hear how.

P.S.

>> “Not fooling anyone except for those folks paying up to rent and buy houses.” Your sentence in grammatically incorrect. WHO is “not fooling anyone?” You are missing the subject of the sentence!

2) “Personally I don’t know how PA schools compare to others…” You need a comma after “Personally.”

Your kids only attend in one district? How unusual! Guess what? You can actually research on the internet how your district compares to others! You don’t actually have to move your kids around or split them among many districts to understand how different districts compare!

Sorry, but posts that add no value and only seek to denigrate others who are actively trying to contribute intelligently to the discussion really irritate me. If you’re going to correct others, make darn sure you are perfect! (Or stop thinking you are superior and think of something of valuable to add.)

After:

Posted by Dislike Mean Posts, a resident of Community Center
1 hour ago

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
1 hour ago

@Moderator – May I, respectfully, suggest to link this thread also to the schools & kids category? (it is in “around town” now)

After:

Gone. Thread moved to the  school & kids category. You are very welcome!

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Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
23 minutes ago

The removed posts of ‘Kool Aid Sounds Good Actually’ and ‘Dislike Mean Posts” along my deleted/vanished post can be found on a page I dedicated to the “editing”/censoring listing comments Before & After – Web Link

(I suggested to link/move this thread to the Schools & kids category. This thread was linked/moved to the schools & kids category. My post disappeared, completely, without a trace I ever posted).

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
9 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community

13 minutes ago

@Dislike Mean Posts – please count your blessings. Your posts do not vanish, a trace is left.

My dialog with ThoughtPolice can be found here- Web Link

I also noted:
Thank you ThoughtPolice! I am honoured. Please relay my best regards and my wholehearted compliments to BigBrother! Fine work, indeed.

My postings vanished. No trace that I had a dialog with ThoughtPolice. This is a shame, since I did quote Orwell on my Dec 8Th, 2013 post –
“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”.

After:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
9 hours ago

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled: School board to discuss semi-finalists for Skelly replacement

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/29/school-board-to-discuss-semi-finalists-for-skelly-replacement

Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
13 minutes ago

@Moderator – May I, respectfully, suggest to link this thread also to the schools & kids category?

After:

Gone. Vanished. Thread moved the Kids and schools. You are very welcome.

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
9  minutes ago
@Moderator – Thank you for moving the thread to the school & kids category.

I’ll deeply appreciate if you could let me know why my earlier comment suggesting, respectfully, to link this thread to this category was remove without a trace?

I was ‘deleted”, completely, many times while other seemingly similar comments remained intact.
While I am trying to follow the terms of use, I am confused.

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Gone.

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Thread Titled: School board ponders health benefits for its own members

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/25/school-board-ponders-health-benefits-for-its-own-members

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Posted by TheRub, a resident of Mountain View
13 minutes ago
Board member Dana Tom said he does not support adding health coverage for board members:
“It rubs me the wrong way,” he said. “I know most districts provide it and I think most districts should not, and that’s been our practice for as long as I’ve been on the board.”

That is his justification? It “rubs him the wrong way”? I wonder why he doesn’t feel the need to receive health insurance? A public record search on this elected official shows that his house is worth over $5,000,000! Web Link

What “rubs me the wrong way” is the fact that a very wealthy individual like “Lord Tom” is fighting to prevent a benefit that would allow the less affluent the ability to serve on the board.

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Posted by TheRub, a resident of Mountain View
10 hours ago

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Posted by TheRub, a resident of Mountain View
39 minutes ago

Wow. Why was my posting removed? I just pointed out that Dana Tom was opposing a benefit that would allow less affluent members to serve on the board.

Was it because I provided a link to the Zillow page for his 5+ million dollar mansion??

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
8 minutes ago
@TheRub – I happened to see your post before it was removed. Your removed post can be found now here – Web Link (a page in my blog, dedicated to the censoring, Before &After).

I do not know why your post was removed. The link you provided was only part of your perspective on this issue, which was detailed in your removed post.

After:

Both comments, TheRub’s and mine gone. vanished.

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Before:

Posted by ThoughtPolice, a resident of Mountain View
4 hours ago

I keep getting my posting removed regarding this issue. It is fact-based and respectful. Can someone please tell me why?

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
4 hours ago
Off topic comment –
@ThoughtPolice – back on June, 2013 I started a thread asking for feedback on the same type of issues. Web Link
I got some interesting responses. The thread was restricted, fast.As it turns out – June 2013 was a very eventful month.
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Posted by ThoughtPolice, a resident of Mountain View
2 hours ago
Ah, I see the problem. The terms of use was violated:”You agree not to… post any information..,that is offensive to any individual, group or class of person.”Since everything posted is most certainly to offend SOMEONE, every post should be deleted.I now formally file a protest on all postings made to paloaltoonline.com as offensive to myself. Staff is instructed to purge the database immediately!
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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community

2 hours ago
Off topic, again –
@ThoughtPolice- I respectfully disagree. Wishing you a nice day will not be offensive to anyone.
Until Staff follows your instructions, you are welcome to check a page I dedicated to this issue, posting comments Before & After Staff editing- Web Link

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Posted by ThoughtPolice, a resident of Mountain View
2 hours ago

Village fool,
” I respectfully disagree. Wishing you a nice day will not be offensive to anyone. ”

My goal is to have fabulous days so when someone wishes me to only have a “nice day”, I am offended. :)

Great Blog! I’ve bookmarked it and will be a regular reader! Thank you for preserving the postings.

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Posted by ThoughtPolice, a resident of Mountain View

on Apr 27, 2014 at 8:22 pm

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

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Posted by ThoughtPolice, a resident of Mountain View
on Apr 27, 2014 at 9:45 pm

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

.Comment: Thank you ThoughtPolice! I am honoured. Please relay my best regards  and my wholehearted compliments to BigBrother! Fine work, indeed.
My postings vanished. No trace that I had a dialog with ThoughtPolice. This is a shame, since I did quote Orwell on my Dec 8Th, 2013 post  –
“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”.

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Thread Titled: In-depth report: How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying

link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/06/14/out-of-the-shadows#comment_form

Before (4/18/2014):

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
39 minutes ago

This article/thread was published on Friday, June 14th, 2013 – almost a year ago.

On June 17th, 2013 I wrote, above: “… I think of the Federal investigation as the first, alarming lab result. Transparency and accountability will be the first signs of change. I must be missing something.”

On January 15th, 2014 I wrote, above: “…I am sorry. I did not understand.
My questions – How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying? What have changed?”

I am sorry-
I still am missing something.
And I still do not understand How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying? What have changed?

After:

Gone. Thread locked. No more commenting.

I posted  again, today Friday, 4/18/2014, twice.  I cannot understand or see any change, and I do not understand why stating  my inability to see any change in PAUSD is a cause to have my  comment removed, completely.

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
on Apr 11, 2014 at 4:43 pm

On June 17th, 2013 I wrote, above: “…I must be missing something.”

On January 15th, 2014 I wrote, above: “…I am sorry. I did not understand.
My questions – How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying? What have changed?”

This article/thread was published on Friday, June 14th, 2013. It so happens that this date – June 14th, 2013 – was explicitly mentioned in the article published today, dealing with Palo Alto High school.

I am sorry-
I still am missing something.
And I still do not understand How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying? What have changed?

2.

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
4 minutes ago

I’m sorry, I still do not understand.

1. How a federal inquiry is changing the way schools respond to bullying?
2. What have changed?

After:

Both comments gone. Both were removed, completely, on 4/16/2014 , less than half an hour after after I posted comment #2.

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Thread Titled: Superintendent evaluation news needed

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/02/08/superintendent-evaluation-news-needed

Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
on Apr 11, 2014 at 6:59 pm

@Evaluate this! –
I am taking this opportunity to let you know that I used your “old pesky First Amendment”, above, on Feb 22nd in my post relating to the atmosphere/culture of silence and few unfortunate derivatives. – Web Link

I wrote many times my belief that anything and everything is possible where there is no accountability, no transparency etc. Fear of retaliation is just one of the very reasonable results of such culture. It is a very slippery road.

After:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
on Apr 11, 2014 at 6:59 pm

[Post removed.]

Comment: My post was removed couple of days after I posted. Usually, the removal happens faster.

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Thread Titled: Magical Bridge playground surges toward reality

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/17/magical-bridge-playground-surges-toward-reality

Before:

Posted by Koi Pi, a resident of Old Palo Alto
28 minutes ago

I find it interesting that the Palo Alto Weekly chose to remove so many posts regarding the Ass’t City Manager leaving for San Jose and then close the blog to any further comment. Seems kind of childish. What are they afraid of? If the Weekly chooses to post city press releases why not let residents comment on them? All posts removed were intelligent and well worded, yet, Weekly editors chose to censor even the mildest criticisms. What a pity!

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Thread Titled: Student streaking: Alarm over mixed messages

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/11/student-streaking-alarm-over-mixed-messages

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Posted by Spectator at Large, a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
6 minutes ago
Spectator at Large is a registered user.
Winston’s Comments About Student’s Breasts Are Totally Unacceptable!!!!

Having reviewed the article about streaking and comments by various posters I would like to state unequivocally that Winston’s viewing of breasts, as evidenced by his comments to other students, is an outrage. It is said that a principal sets the tone at a school and it would appear that he was very successful at setting a tone where students felt it was not only OK to streak and that there would be no severe consequence for such behavior.

I don’t understand how it is legal for students to strip and run through campus while if they did the same thing at T and C across the Embarcadero they would be arrested.

The safety and well being of our students includes an environment where they shouldn’t have to even think about whether they are going to have to see a butt naked body paraded in front of them. I am not a prude and have in fact gone to many clothing optional places in my life including nude beaches and retreat centers; however, to my knowledge Palo Alto High School has never been written up as a “clothing optional institution” and it should be made known to students that they will be suspended instead of may be suspended for violating the safe environment that students and parents feel they are providing their students during school hours.

The fact that Winston apparently enjoyed the show is disturbing. Perhaps he was truly concerned with the pain the girls boobs would be experiencing and had to verify that with a student. This is totally inappropriate. How about if Katya was witnessing a streaking incident at Gunn and leaned over to a male student stating, “that must be painful for the students private parts”. Hey, they are called “private parts” for a reason. You can show them to anyone you wish to in private.

I hope that the commenters on the streaking thread like True Blue aren’t parents of potential Ivy League bound students who are just trying to keep a suspension off their child’s record. Hey parents, why not teach your children some accountability by letting them accept the consequences of their highly offensive actions. Quit giving students who commit punishable actions the lighter sentence and perhaps some of these activities will stop.

Streaking is not just “youthful highjinks” and should not be tolerated. Perhaps with Winston not at the helm we will have a top administrator at Paly who holds our students to a higher standard of behavior.

There used to be a “Naked Guy” attending Cal. Perhaps the young men who need to take off their clothes to feel liberated or make a statement can do so when they get into a prestigious university. Just bring a towel with you to sit on in the classroom.

After:

Posted by Spectator at Large, a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
45 minutes ago

Spectator at Large is a registered user.

Winston’s Comments About Student’s Breasts Are Totally Unacceptable!!!!

Having reviewed the article about streaking and comments by various posters I would like to state unequivocally that Winston’s viewing of breasts, as evidenced by his comments to other students, is an outrage. It is said that a principal sets the tone at a school and it would appear that he was very successful at setting a tone where students felt it was not only OK to streak and that there would be no severe consequence for such behavior.

I don’t understand how it is legal for students to strip and run through campus while if they did the same thing at T and C across the Embarcadero they would be arrested.

The safety and well being of our students includes an environment where they shouldn’t have to even think about whether they are going to have to see a butt naked body paraded in front of them. I am not a prude and have in fact gone to many clothing optional places in my life including nude beaches and retreat centers; however, to my knowledge Palo Alto High School has never been written up as a “clothing optional institution” and it should be made known to students that they will be suspended instead of may be suspended for violating the safe environment that students and parents feel they are providing their students during school hours.

The fact that Winston apparently enjoyed the show is disturbing. Perhaps he was truly concerned with the pain the girls boobs would be experiencing and had to verify that with a student. This is totally inappropriate. How about if Katya was witnessing a streaking incident at Gunn and leaned over to a male student stating, “that must be painful for the students private parts”. Hey, they are called “private parts” for a reason. You can show them to anyone you wish to in private.

[Portion removed.] Hey parents, why not teach your children some accountability by letting them accept the consequences of their highly offensive actions. Quit giving students who commit punishable actions the lighter sentence and perhaps some of these activities will stop.

Streaking is not just “youthful highjinks” and should not be tolerated. Perhaps with Winston not at the helm we will have a top administrator at Paly who holds our students to a higher standard of behavior.

There used to be a “Naked Guy” attending Cal. Perhaps the young men who need to take off their clothes to feel liberated or make a statement can do so when they get into a prestigious university. Just bring a towel with you to sit on in the classroom.

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
2 minutes ago

JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

I think the real problem is that under Phil Winston, this was treated as a joke and there were no consequences. This evidently created a situation in which there were hordes of naked teenage girls bouncing off the campus walls. Enter Phil Winston, who evidently did not realize it was creepy to (1) be striding about among the naked teenage girls sporting his chill soul patch and (2) extra ultra creepy to be commenting on their bodies as he did so. “Does that make her boobs hurt?” I just threw up in my mouth thinking about that.

News travels fast I guess — my daughter texted me from her college: “did you hear about Mr. Winston? I always thought there was something off about him. Now we know why.” Indeed.

After:

Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
9 hours ago

JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

I think the real problem is that under Phil Winston, this was treated as a joke and there were no consequences. This evidently created a situation in which there were hordes of naked teenage girls bouncing off the campus walls. [Portion removed.]

News travels fast I guess — my daughter texted me from her college: “did you hear about Mr. Winston? I always thought there was something off about him. Now we know why.” Indeed.

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Before:

Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
59 minutes ago
JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

Please note that one of the comments for which Winston was disciplined was for commenting on the naked breasts of a student who streaked to another student. First, he set the circumstances for streaking to not just occur but to become epidemic. The report is that there were 100 cases in a single month. There are 20 school days per month at most. That means 5 naked students per day.

After having set that stage, Winston evidently then watched a naked female student as she ran across campus, watching her breasts move up and down, then commented on her moving breasts that he had just watched to another female child.

Winston was the principal. He created an environment that was alleged by the teachers and found by a district investigation to be a hostile environment, infected with sexual harassment. It is not an accident that in that environment slut-shaming and rape culture flourished as well. All of the various problems — rape culture, harassment of staff, streaking, “black dong,” “getting a lot of pussy,” “don’t her boobs hurt,” ick, gross, disgusting, whatever — WAKE UP PEOPLE — ALL OF IT was the result of the tone set at the top by Winston.

That is what a hostile environment is.

The only remaining question is why the district put that person back in a classroom — not just a classroom but a special ed classroom.

After:

Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
on Apr 16, 2014 at 5:51 am

JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

Please note that one of the comments for which Winston was disciplined was for commenting on the naked breasts of a student who streaked to another student. First, he set the circumstances for streaking to not just occur but to become epidemic. The report is that there were 100 cases in a single month. There are 20 school days per month at most. That means 5 naked students per day.

[Portion removed.]

Winston was the principal. He created an environment that was alleged by the teachers and found by a district investigation to be a hostile environment, infected with sexual harassment. [Portion removed.]
That is what a hostile environment is.

The only remaining question is why the district put that person back in a classroom — not just a classroom but a special ed classroom.

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Thread Titled: Ex-Paly principal disciplined for harassment

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/11/ex-paly-principal-disciplined-for-harassment

Before:

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After:

Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
14 hours ago

JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

[Portion removed.]

I wrote:

“On reviewing the materials that were released by the district. . .”

These materials are on the district website: Web Link

The comment was “you must be getting a lot of pussy” was alleged to Scott Bowers by a teacher who said that a [portion removed] student report it to that teacher.

The alleged unwelcome touching of the female staff member including hugging and backrubs (gross) was made by Scott Bowers in Phil’s 45/90 notice. Presumably if Phil rubs his hands on another teacher without consent again, he will really be in trouble!

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Posted by MidtownDad, a resident of Midtown
22 minutes ago
MidtownDad is a registered user.

Sorry but this guy need to go. He needs to be in the district office behind a desk. He should not be in a classroom behind closed doors. Especially with Special Ed students. Another wonderful decision by smelly skelly.
I feel sorry for the parents of his current students. To find out this news now. That this confirmed knowledge had been kept from you. I would spend whole the weekend asking my children if anything odd has happened in class. Then be at school first thing Monday to raise hell.

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Posted by MidtownDad, a resident of Midtown
56 minutes ago

MidtownDad is a registered user.

Sorry but this guy need to go. He needs to be in the district office behind a desk. He should not be in a classroom behind closed doors. Especially with Special Ed students. [Portion removed.]

I feel sorry for the parents of his current students. To find out this news now. That this confirmed knowledge had been kept from you. [Portion removed.]

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Posted by Edmund Burke, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
10 minutes ago
Edmund Burke is a registered user.
The school board has failed in every way that it is possible for a public body to fail its constituents. This is a sad cautionary tale of how bad things can get when elected officials consistently and over a long period of time fail to exercise oversight, and fail to act with appropriate transparency and accountability. No one can feel anything but shame and disgust reading this account of what appears to be a massive government failure — a failure that continues. Should Phil Winston continue to work in a classroom with special ed children, many of them on the spectrum, many who are unable to express themselves verbally? No.

Winston said to one student that she needed to allow her boyfriend to perform oral sex on her, commented on another student’s naked breasts (after he allowed her to run naked exposing her breasts to him, and then said to a staff member that an African American student was “popular with white girls…because of his black dong.” He also was allegedly stroking, touching, and caressing female students in a way that made people very uncomfortable.

Here are just a few of the important questions raised by this story:

1. Did the school board attempt to prevent OCR from investigating rape culture because it wanted to prevent OCR from discovering the dozens of sexual harassment complaints by faculty and students then in its possession? This appears very likely from the timing.

2. The complaints regarding Winston, even absent the rape culture issue, document a serious hostile educational environment under Title IX and possible a hostile work environment based on sexual harassment under Title VII. Was a Title IX investigation conducted? This appears unlikely as no students were interviewed and Rape Culture emerged at the school even after the district investigation.

3. Once the board became aware of the substantiated allegations (dozens of them) against Winston, why did board members place him in a classroom? That rationale should be public so that the public can evaluate their judgment. In particular, Dana Tom, who was the board president at the time, should be required to account to the public for his views.

4. Why was the public actively misled by Skelly and the board about Winston’s departure? At best, they should have given no comment. But the comments that were given appear to be inaccurate, misleading, and improper in my opinion.

What is called for now is moral, intellectual, and ethical clarity. The ethical and right thing to do was to attempt to dismiss Winston and to remove him from the classroom. Even if it would take time. Even if it would be expensive. The Weekly’s reporting here was marvelous, but it’s editorial lacked moral clarity. The big problem here isn’t that it’s hard to fire teachers. It’s that PAUSD did not even try.

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Posted by Edmund Burke, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 11, 2014 at 6:50 pm

Edmund Burke is a registered user.

The school board has failed in every way that it is possible for a public body to fail its constituents. This is a sad cautionary tale of how bad things can get when elected officials consistently and over a long period of time fail to exercise oversight, and fail to act with appropriate transparency and accountability. No one can feel anything but shame and disgust reading this account of what appears to be a massive government failure — a failure that continues. Should Phil Winston continue to work in a classroom with special ed children, many of them on the spectrum, many who are unable to express themselves verbally? No.

Winston said to one student that she needed to allow her boyfriend to perform oral sex on her, commented on another student’s naked breasts (after he allowed her to run naked exposing her breasts to him, and then said to a staff member that an African American student was “popular with white girls…because of his black dong.” [Portion removed.]

Here are just a few of the important questions raised by this story:

1. Did the school board attempt to prevent OCR from investigating rape culture because it wanted to prevent OCR from discovering [portion removed due to misstatement of facts] sexual harassment complaints [portion removed] then in its possession? This appears very likely from the timing.

2. The complaints regarding Winston, even absent the rape culture issue, document a serious hostile educational environment under Title IX and possible a hostile work environment based on sexual harassment under Title VII. Was a Title IX investigation conducted? This appears unlikely as no students were interviewed and Rape Culture emerged at the school even after the district investigation.

3. Once the board became aware of the substantiated allegations (dozens of them) against Winston, why did board members place him in a classroom? That rationale should be public so that the public can evaluate their judgment. In particular, Dana Tom, who was the board president at the time, should be required to account to the public for his views.

4. Why was the public actively misled by Skelly and the board about Winston’s departure? At best, they should have given no comment. But the comments that were given appear to be inaccurate, misleading, and improper in my opinion.

What is called for now is moral, intellectual, and ethical clarity. The ethical and right thing to do was to attempt to dismiss Winston and to remove him from the classroom. Even if it would take time. Even if it would be expensive. The Weekly’s reporting here was marvelous, but it’s editorial lacked moral clarity. The big problem here isn’t that it’s hard to fire teachers. It’s that PAUSD did not even try.

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Posted by peppered, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 minutes ago
peppered is a registered user.
Guys like this are very sophisticated. They make sure they behave decently with one set of people while they practice lewd behavior with others. That’s why you see the dichotomy of responses: praise and disgust.

Both groups are right from their own subjective viewpoints.

But the district corroborated the reports from 30 people, mostly staffers (adults). Just because Winston may have behaved well in many cases, that does not excuse his poor behavior in others.

The guy does not belong NEAR a classroom.

Would Skelly feel safe with this guy near his own daughter? Hmmm… no.

But it’s okay for him to be near our daughters?

Nice work Kevin.

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Posted by peppered, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

peppered is a registered user.

Guys like this are very sophisticated. They make sure they behave decently with one set of people while they practice [portion removed] behavior with others. That’s why you see the dichotomy of responses: praise and disgust.

Both groups are right from their own subjective viewpoints.

But the district corroborated the reports from 30 people, mostly staffers (adults). Just because Winston may have behaved well in many cases, that does not excuse his poor behavior in others.

[Portion removed.]

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Posted by Roger Dodger, a resident of another community

2 minutes ago
Roger Dodger is a registered user.

This is a hit piece by a media outlet with another agenda. “Edmund Burke” (who seems to share that agenda to some extent) can intone all he wants to about how “attacking the press is bad form” but the Weekly is hardly The New York Times and it’s been obvious for a while now that they have an editorial agenda of a higher order with regard to the school district. Attacking the press is actually good form when the press is yellow and seeking its own ends, and people on this forum have a right and a responsibility to say that they are disgusted by the tactics of their local paper (muzzling the discussion on this forum when it suits their ends is one highly questionable tactic that comes to mind). There are facts, and then there are *interpretations of facts*, the latter being pretty much everything that’s being said here (including by “Edmund Burke”), the former being truly known only to those involved. (Or, as Rummy would say, “there are a lot of known unknowns.”) Reading the documentation, my own interpretation of the facts is that Winston clearly exhibited some poor behavior and made some poor choices, and also that his intention may have been entirely misinterpreted at times. It also seems to me that he may have been unaware of the fact that his behavior was making others uncomfortable, but that he is not the dangerous serial predator he is being made out to be by the Weekly and other hysterics here. He was perhaps a bit too young for the job and perhaps a bit too eager to please the kids and show that he was hip to their scene. This may have led him to make the classic “young teacher” mistake of not maintaining proper social distance from students, and that social distance is absolutely critical if you are a principal. That also meant that he made certain enemies among the faculty, something which is unavoidable when you are a principal. The man had mountains of accolades when he left his position at Paly; this is hardly the reputation of a serial harasser. Winston clearly was well-liked and did a lot of good by a lot of students and others in his tenure as principal, which is worth remembering. Unfortunately what is done is done, the man’s career and reputation have effectively been ruined, and he will have a difficult path now. The “harm” he may have done pales in comparison to the wreckage the Weekly and the torch-and-pitchfork gang here have done to any semblance of fairness we might have pretended to or hoped for.

As someone who, in a previous job, was accused of being a racist by someone who entirely misinterpreted something I said, I will point out that it’s entirely possible for something similar to have been the case in many of the instances sited here. People get their feelings hurt and misinterpret things all the time. Saying you are uncomfortable or feeling harassed does not, in and of itself, establish any fact other than that your feelings are hurt and you feel harassed. There was and is disagreement about some of the incidents alleged; a lot of this is very fuzzy and the actual *facts* of what was said or what happened are known only to those involved. The single complaint names a number of other teachers, only 4 of whom agreed to be interviewed. Faculty politics is a complicated business, because the stakes are so low (usually involving egos).

The rest of us are just speculating, including “Edmund Burke”.

But let’s not let all that get in the way of ruining a man’s career and reputation. Bring on the torches and pitchforks, we’ve got a mob to form here.

After:

Posted by Roger Dodger, a resident of another community
7 hours ago

Roger Dodger is a registered user.

This is a hit piece by a media outlet with another agenda. “Edmund Burke” (who seems to share that agenda to some extent) can intone all he wants to about how “attacking the press is bad form” but the Weekly is hardly The New York Times and it’s been obvious for a while now that they have an editorial agenda of a higher order with regard to the school district. Attacking the press is actually good form when the press is yellow and seeking its own ends, and people on this forum have a right and a responsibility to say that they are disgusted by the tactics of their local paper (muzzling the discussion on this forum when it suits their ends is one highly questionable tactic that comes to mind). There are facts, and then there are *interpretations of facts*, the latter being pretty much everything that’s being said here (including by “Edmund Burke”), the former being truly known only to those involved. (Or, as Rummy would say, “there are a lot of known unknowns.”) Reading the documentation, my own interpretation of the facts is that Winston clearly exhibited some poor behavior and made some poor choices, and also that his intention may have been entirely misinterpreted at times. It also seems to me that he may have been unaware of the fact that his behavior was making others uncomfortable, but that he is not the dangerous serial predator he is being made out to be by the Weekly and other hysterics here. He was perhaps a bit too young for the job and perhaps a bit too eager to please the kids and show that he was hip to their scene. This may have led him to make the classic “young teacher” mistake of not maintaining proper social distance from students, and that social distance is absolutely critical if you are a principal. That also meant that he made certain enemies among the faculty, something which is unavoidable when you are a principal. The man had mountains of accolades when he left his position at Paly; this is hardly the reputation of a serial harasser. Winston clearly was well-liked and did a lot of good by a lot of students and others in his tenure as principal, which is worth remembering. Unfortunately what is done is done, the man’s career and reputation have effectively been ruined, and he will have a difficult path now. The “harm” he may have done pales in comparison to the wreckage the Weekly and the torch-and-pitchfork gang here have done to any semblance of fairness we might have pretended to or hoped for.

As someone who, in a previous job, was accused of being a racist by someone who entirely misinterpreted something I said, I will point out that it’s entirely possible for something similar to have been the case in many of the instances sited here. People get their feelings hurt and misinterpret things all the time. Saying you are uncomfortable or feeling harassed does not, in and of itself, establish any fact other than that your feelings are hurt and you feel harassed. There was and is disagreement about some of the incidents alleged; a lot of this is very fuzzy and the actual *facts* of what was said or what happened are known only to those involved. The single complaint names a number of other teachers, [portion removed due to factual misstatement.] Faculty politics is a complicated business, because the stakes are so low (usually involving egos).

The rest of us are just speculating, including “Edmund Burke”.

But let’s not let all that get in the way of ruining a man’s career and reputation. [Portion removed.]

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
17 minutes ago
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One thing that no one has commented on is that Winston’s comment about the black dong isn’t just sexist it’s actively racist. It uses one of the worst and oldest racist stereotypes about black males and suggests that they are oversexed and involved with white girls. It is disgusting and despicable . It makes me want to vomit that this man had anything to do with my children, he now teaches in special Ed in a class that has many black children in it (thanks to disproportionality) from VTP. This is an outrage that that statement alone was not sufficient to issue a 30 day notice. That statement is racist. No one is even talking about that. Please PASS and SEAN get him out of Jordan and away from black children.

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
3 hours ago

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One thing that no one has commented on is that Winston’s comment about the black dong isn’t just sexist it’s actively racist. It uses one of the worst and oldest racist stereotypes about black males and suggests that they are oversexed and involved with white girls. It is disgusting and despicable. [Portion removed.] This is an outrage that that statement alone was not sufficient to issue a 30 day notice. [Portion removed.]

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Posted by palymother, a resident of Community Center
1 hour ago
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Peppered, I do care. Mr. Winston was an excellent principal when my daughter attended Paly and for my son, now a senior. I have been a high school teacher for over twenty years and as stated above, I blew the whistle on a sexual harassing admin. years ago when I was a department chair.

Mr. Winston is being publicly maligned here. He has a wife and children. He deserves the defense he has paid for with the CTA. Just like the defense i got when I got when I blew the whistle. Where were you “if this happened in industry” types when this went down a year ago? Buying stock? Buying an SAT tutor? Tweeting? Get a job, ladies.

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Posted by palymother, a resident of Community Center
12 hours ago

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Peppered, I do care. Mr. Winston was an excellent principal when my daughter attended Paly and for my son, now a senior. I have been a high school teacher for over twenty years and as stated above, I blew the whistle on a sexual harassing admin. years ago when I was a department chair.

Mr. Winston is being publicly maligned here. He has a wife and children. He deserves the defense he has paid for with the CTA. Just like the defense i got when I got when I blew the whistle. Where were you “if this happened in industry” types when this went down a year ago? Buying stock? Buying an SAT tutor? Tweeting? [Portion removed.]

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
6 minutes ago
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Phil HAD DUE PROCESS. What part of this is so opaque? I thought the reporting in the story was good, so why are so many people confused about whether or not PHIL HAD DUE PROCESS?

Phil received a 45/90 notice pursuant to Cal Government Code Section 44938. Under the law he was required to be given a notice of unprofessional conduct 45 days before any action can be taken in order to “correct his or her faults and overcome the grounds for the charge.” He was required to receive a similar notice 90 days prior to any charge of unsatisfactory performance. He received those notices. They listed the charges. That is the process he was due under the law and his union contract and he received it.

Here is how you folks are acting. You are acting like an anonymous person approached the Weekly with an anonymous accusation against Winston of sexual harassment. And they printed it without any verification whatsoever.

See, that is not what happened. What happened is that Scott Bowers, the HR manager for the district, interviewed 4 staff members who independently corroborated the account of the individual who made the first complaint. That’s five credible adults who verified the events complained of.

The investigation was sufficient to substantiate the accounts. The lawyer agreed. Kevin Skelly and the school board agreed.

Then they all took a wrong turn. Instead of issuing a 30 day notice of termination for immoral conduct under 44932(a)(1) as sexual harassment is usually handled, or under 44932(a)(7) for violating state law and district policy against sexual harassment, they elected to proceed to place him in a special education classroom (watched by aides because this IS a South Park episode) and issue a 45/90 notice. No such notice is required or would be appropriate for sexual harassment so he was charged instead with unprofessional conduct and incompetence, two sections that are not related to sexual harassment and not typically (or really ever) used to address it. That is for obvious reasons — why should some sexual harasser get a second bite at that apple? Is it even plausible that state law would require that? Hint: no, it is not, that’s why it is not the law.

Phil Winston should not be in a classroom based on the substantiated allegations of sexual harassment. There should have been a full investigation and he should have received a 30 day notice and suspension on September 15 (the first day he could have received such a notice). Since he didn’t, he should get one now before May 15 and be assigned to sharpen pencils in the district office 8 hours a day while the hearings are held. He will probably lose based on how these cases have come out in the past.

We can fire Tabitha to pay for it. The average cost to fire a sexual harasser is probably less than 2 years of her salary and it looks like Lou Lozano has taken over her job anyway.

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
1 hour ago

JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

Phil HAD DUE PROCESS. What part of this is so opaque? I thought the reporting in the story was good, so why are so many people confused about whether or not PHIL HAD DUE PROCESS?

Phil received a 45/90 notice pursuant to Cal Government Code Section 44938. Under the law he was required to be given a notice of unprofessional conduct 45 days before any action can be taken in order to “correct his or her faults and overcome the grounds for the charge.” He was required to receive a similar notice 90 days prior to any charge of unsatisfactory performance. He received those notices. They listed the charges. That is the process he was due under the law and his union contract and he received it.

Here is how you folks are acting. You are acting like an anonymous person approached the Weekly with an anonymous accusation against Winston of sexual harassment. And they printed it without any verification whatsoever.

See, that is not what happened. What happened is that Scott Bowers, the HR manager for the district, interviewed 4 staff members who independently corroborated the account of the individual who made the first complaint. That’s five credible adults who verified the events complained of.

The investigation was sufficient to substantiate the accounts. The lawyer agreed. Kevin Skelly and the school board agreed.

Then they all took a wrong turn. Instead of issuing a 30 day notice of termination for immoral conduct under 44932(a)(1) as sexual harassment is usually handled, or under 44932(a)(7) for violating state law and district policy against sexual harassment, they elected to proceed to place him in a special education classroom (watched by aides because this IS a South Park episode) and issue a 45/90 notice. No such notice is required or would be appropriate for sexual harassment so he was charged instead with unprofessional conduct and incompetence, two sections that are not related to sexual harassment and not typically (or really ever) used to address it. That is for obvious reasons — why should some sexual harasser get a second bite at that apple? Is it even plausible that state law would require that? Hint: no, it is not, that’s why it is not the law.

Phil Winston should not be in a classroom based on the substantiated allegations of sexual harassment. There should have been a full investigation and he should have received a 30 day notice and suspension on September 15 (the first day he could have received such a notice). Since he didn’t, he should get one now before May 15 and be assigned to [portion removed] the district office 8 hours a day while the hearings are held. He will probably lose based on how these cases have come out in the past.

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
23 minutes ago
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OK, I’m game. Editor, why did you remove the words “sharpen pencils in” from the sentence: “Since he didn’t, he should get one now before May 15 and be assigned to sharpen pencils in the district office 8 hours a day while the hearings are held.”

May I respectfully request that you spend your time fact checking the things that Yoohoo Lou tells you instead of deleting the entirely unoffensive words “sharpen pencils in” from a post? It seems to me that the guy who wrote the sentence:

“In this case, the district gave Winston the mandated “45-90″-day notice, but UNDER THE LAW, it is unlikely that he will face further disciplinary action unless he repeats the behavior he has been warned about. How nice it would be to see, as one outcome of this case, our district, including its teachers, advocating for reform of this system.”

Words in ALL CAPS are not true.

Also, if you know anything about rubber rooms (Ira Glass had a great episode on the NYC rubber room a few years back) then you know that it is even basically factually accurate. I could have said “staple papers together” or “sort paper clips” or “sit silently and do nothing” also.

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
44 minutes ago

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
22 minutes ago
JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.
Sorry:

It seems to me that the guy who wrote this sentence should spend his time more profitably calling up YooHoo Lou and Kevin Skelly to ask why they misled him:

“In this case, the district gave Winston the mandated “45-90″-day notice, but UNDER THE LAW, it is unlikely that he will face further disciplinary action unless he repeats the behavior he has been warned about. How nice it would be to see, as one outcome of this case, our district, including its teachers, advocating for reform of this system.”

Words in ALL CAPS are not true.

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Posted by JLS mom of 2, a resident of JLS Middle School
14 hours ago

JLS mom of 2 is a registered user.

[Portion removed.]

I wrote:

“On reviewing the materials that were released by the district. . .”

These materials are on the district website: Web Link

The comment was “you must be getting a lot of pussy” was alleged to Scott Bowers by a teacher who said that a [portion removed] student report it to that teacher.

The alleged unwelcome touching of the female staff member including hugging and backrubs (gross) was made by Scott Bowers in Phil’s 45/90 notice. Presumably if Phil rubs his hands on another teacher without consent again, he will really be in trouble!

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Thread Titled: School administrator Kathleen Meagher to leave for Virginia

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/11/school-administrator-kathleen-meagher-to-leave-for-virginia

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Posted by Somme people, a resident of Mayfield
5 hours ago

Is she going to receive higher pay in her new position? If so, that would really be a shocker!

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Posted by Somme people, a resident of Mayfield
8 hours ago

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Posted by Mom, a resident of Palo Alto High School
1 hour ago

Good riddance. She got the job as principal because she is a pal of Skelly’s and was springboarding to the district office. I worked with her on the PTA and yes, “Duveneck parent” is correct in the description of her. Perhaps being surrounded by intellectuals resulted in her condescending, unprofessional style so she could feel better about herself. To do well in PAUSD, administrators have to know how to work well with people and compromise, rather than dictate. Notice she can’t stay at any job position at length. My sympathies to Arlington Public Schools, but congratulations to us!

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Posted by Mom, a resident of Palo Alto High School
4 hours ago

[Portion removed.] I worked with her on the PTA and yes, “Duveneck parent” is correct in the description of her. Perhaps being surrounded by intellectuals resulted in her condescending, unprofessional style so she could feel better about herself. To do well in PAUSD, administrators have to know how to work well with people and compromise, rather than dictate. [Portion removed.]

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Thread Titled: Editorial: Hard school lessons

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/11/editorial-hard-school-lessons

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Posted by Edmund Burke, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
3 minutes ago
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While the reporting on this subject was outstanding and truly marvelous (particularly the tenacity behind the reporting) his editorial lacks moral clarity.

The Weekly claims that “Lesson Number One” is: In California, the law makes it so expensive and onerous to terminate a credentialed teacher that most districts decide not to even try.

No.

Lesson Number One is that PAUSD failed when it placed Phil Winston, who the district’s own investigation had substantiated and serious allegations of sexual harassment about, back into the classroom. And not just any classroom, a special education classroom, with our most vulnerable children.

Lesson Number One is that PAUSD should have placed Winston in a position not in contact with students and attempted to dismiss him, as do other districts when they have teachers who have committed serious offenses. It is absolutely appalling that PAUSD did not do this, and appalling that the Weekly thinks that lesson number one is some kind of lesson about California law reform.

Lesson Number One is our school board sat by mutely while Kevin Skelly actively misled the public about Winston. Lesson Number One is that we need a board and superintendent that put students first. Lesson Number One is that our school board is a moral and ethical madhouse. Rather than insisting that we try to dismiss this teacher, even if it was expensive, even if it took a long time, because it was the right thing to do, they allowed the public to be told that Winston was “good with kids.”

Lesson Number One is that a school board that would do that has no moral compass. They are at sea, and land is no longer in sight at all.

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Posted by Edmund Burke, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
4 hours ago

Edmund Burke is a registered user.

While the reporting on this subject was outstanding and truly marvelous (particularly the tenacity behind the reporting) his editorial lacks moral clarity.

The Weekly claims that “Lesson Number One” is: In California, the law makes it so expensive and onerous to terminate a credentialed teacher that most districts decide not to even try.

No.

Lesson Number One is that PAUSD failed when it placed Phil Winston, who the district’s own investigation had substantiated and serious allegations of sexual harassment about, back into the classroom. And not just any classroom, a special education classroom, with our most vulnerable children.

Lesson Number One is that PAUSD should have placed Winston in a position not in contact with students and attempted to dismiss him, as do other districts when they have teachers who have committed serious offenses. It is absolutely appalling that PAUSD did not do this, and appalling that the Weekly thinks that lesson number one is some kind of lesson about California law reform.

Lesson Number One is our school board sat by mutely while Kevin Skelly actively misled the public about Winston. Lesson Number One is that we need a board and superintendent that put students first. [Portion removed.] Rather than insisting that we try to dismiss this teacher, even if it was expensive, even if it took a long time, because it was the right thing to do, they allowed the public to be told that Winston was “good with kids.”

Lesson Number One is that a school board that would do that has no moral compass. They are at sea, and land is no longer in sight at all.

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Thread Titled: Man arrested for armed robbery of pedestrian

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/07/man-arrested-for-armed-robbery-of-pedestrian

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Posted by Bru, a resident of Crescent Park
4 minutes ago
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Hmmm, you cannot seem to let one post of mine go by without making some spurious attack on it. You’re deliberately misreading my statements – and what for – to make just plain silly accusations against me … how empty your life must be to have to center around this stuff.

Attacks by unbalanced people in Palo Alto, like suicides by train, are a terrible tragedy, but they are not chronic, they are not deliberate evil and a constant threat, and each one is different meaning there is no one thing we can do or one way to look at them.

On the other side we have had a pretty constant but thankfully infrequent muggings, robberies or attacks on people who are just walking in the street minding their own business. This concerns me. I think it ought to concern all Palo Altans, and I think it ought to concern you, whether the language used tweaks your sensiblities or not.

By the way, because random public robberies and assaults concern me and I comment on it does not I am not concerned about other stories or problems as you seem to be deliberately misinterpreting my comment. Why don’t you take a rest and get some help. When you cannot allow me to have my own opinion without constant insults and then deletions of them when you go to far you have a problem. Why don’t you let someone else be the focus of it for while or get some help?

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Posted by Bru, a resident of Crescent Park
36 minutes ago

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[Portion removed.]

Attacks by unbalanced people in Palo Alto, like suicides by train, are a terrible tragedy, but they are not chronic, they are not deliberate evil and a constant threat, and each one is different meaning there is no one thing we can do or one way to look at them.

On the other side we have had a pretty constant but thankfully infrequent muggings, robberies or attacks on people who are just walking in the street minding their own business. This concerns me. I think it ought to concern all Palo Altans, and I think it ought to concern you, [portion removed.]

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Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
1 minutes ago
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Bru: quit being such a creep. You know EXACTLY what I mean – you’re narrow-minded, classist jerk who pretends otherwise. Your response totally gives you away.

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Thread Titled: Parents giving teachers gifts before they give kids grades

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/07/parents-giving-teachers-gifts-before-they-give-kids-grades

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Posted by no surprise, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
3 hours ago

My child’s teacher asked for visa gift cards directly….. and those who complied got all sorts of things…. the best teacher for the next grade for starters…PAUSD is filled with extortion. My kids’ elementary school is like Sicily that way. Everyone says “Oh my, not at PAUSD!” well, go look in the teacher’s cubbies…filled to the brim with “little thank yous” for future favors.

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Posted by no surprise, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
4 hours ago

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Posted by Rupert of henzau, a resident of Midtown
16 minutes ago
“My child’s teacher asked for visa gift cards directly….. and those who complied got all sorts of things…. the best teacher for the next grade for starters…PAUSD is filled with extortion. My kids’ elementary school is like Sicily that way. Everyone says “Oh my, not at PAUSD!” well, go look in the teacher’s cubbies…filled to the brim with “little thank yous” for future favors.”

Okay, no surprise, we haven another bogus claim, thatnyounare pet ulating.
Name the schools whee this has occurred and the teachers involved. Of course you basically say all the teachers are involved. Let’s see some proofs your ridiculous claims.

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Posted by Rupert of henzau, a resident of Midtown
1 hour ago

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Thread Titled: Setting aside time for discussing, ‘dissolving’ stereotypes

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/04/04/setting-aside-time-for-discussing-dissolving-stereotypes

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Posted by Back to the Future, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
1 hour ago
Ok, funny story. So I thought I was posting to this story about how this story seems disconnected from what is really happening in PAUSD since it is about bullying but doesn’t even mention in passing the last 2 years of bullying controversy, federal investigations and the like.

It turns out that it doesn’t mention the last 2 years because it was written 3 years ago. In 2011.

This story is a wholesale rehash of a story published by the same reporter on April 1, 2011. It includes, believe it or not, the same quotes. It includes a whole paragraph literally lifted from the prior story.

I posted on the 2011 story because I thought it was the 2014 story that I read in the written paper. Then I found out it was not quite the same (but almost!) story.

So that answers my original question of why this story doesn’t address or even mention what’s happened in the last 2 years. It was written 3 years ago. Is this April Fool’s?

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Posted by Back to the Future, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
1 hour ago

Here’s the link to the 2011 story: Web Link

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Posted by Back to the Future, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Apr 4, 2014 at 10:08 pm

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
7 hours ago

@Moderator – May I, respectfully, suggest to add this thread to the Schools & kids Category? currently it is “around town”.

@Back to the Future-
You asked: “…Is this April Fool’s?” Yes, Thank you. Everyday is my day. Somewhere.
And, Thank you for posting the link.

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Posted by Can-We-Tell-Each-Other-The-Truth?, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
16 minutes ago
> A Muslim student said, “The thing I want is for everyone to stop
> judging us all based on what only a fraction of our population did.”

Interesting. Over the past 1500 years, Islam has been responsible for killing, and enslaving, perhaps 250M people. The actual numbers are not really knowable, so no one was recording the death counts of those lands, and peoples, who were subject to the Peace of Allah.

Everywhere one looks in the historical record, free peoples fell under the sword of Islam. The most horrific death counts can be found in what is called the Hindu Holocaust, which lasted for about six hundred years. Hindu historians estimate that perhaps 80M to 100M Hindus died while Islam dominated that subcontinent. Even recently, about 2M Hindus and Muslims died (they killed each other) during the Indian/Pakistani Partition (1947-48 timeframe).

It seems very difficult to understand how people can overcome these sorts of differences. Pretending that these events did not happen is not the best way, is it?

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Posted by Can-We-Tell-Each-Other-The-Truth?, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 5, 2014 at 10:15 am

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Posted by Exclusion, a resident of Palo Alto High School
1 hour ago

Certain ethnic groups at Paly are very exclusionary, and even refuse to speak English in or out of the classroom. A few have refused to include American students when asked to separate into groups for study or brainstorming, and when forced to do so, again refuse to speak English in the presence of the American students.

Egalitarianism begins at home, and one wonders what these ethnic kids are learning from their elitist ( racist? ) parents.

Racism works both ways, and when called on it, these people often pull the race card themselves as a distraction or cover.

This is a problem that can no longer be ignored in schools or daily life.

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Posted by Exclusion, a resident of Palo Alto High School
9 hours ago

Certain ethnic groups at Paly are very exclusionary, and even refuse to speak English in or out of the classroom. A few have refused to include American students when asked to separate into groups for study or brainstorming, and when forced to do so, again refuse to speak English in the presence of the American students.

Egalitarianism begins at home, and one wonders what these ethnic kids are learning from their [portion removed] parents.

Racism works both ways, and when called on it, these people often pull the race card themselves as a distraction or cover.

This is a problem that can no longer be ignored in schools or daily life.

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Thread Titled:  English ‘lanes’ limit students

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/03/28/guest-opinion

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Posted by not again, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood

5 minutes ago
Weekly,Just wondering, how did Priory mom’s comment about homework machines and property values stay, and my comment about a fact get deleted. The posters arguing for the Opinion piece have identified themselves as being from Other non-Paly neighborhoods. That’s a fact.

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Thread Titled: Addison Elementary principal to leave

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2014/03/28/addison-elementary-principal-to-leave

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Posted by District insider, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
8 hours ago

Why don’t you check with Katya and get back to me on that.

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Thread restricted only to commentators who login.   This thread was restricted very fast, it seems that it was open to all for about an hour.

The last comment seems to be about Gunn’s principal who announced her plans to step down. The thread that listed her announcement three days ago is still open to all.

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Thread Titled: Gunn principal Villalobos to step down

link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/03/25/gunn-principal-villalobos-to-step-down

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Posted by Experience did not matter , a resident of Adobe-Meadows
4 minutes ago
What is the reason for editing out the “experience matters” reference? What rule did that supposedly violate? Good lord. How random.

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Posted by Experience did not matter , a resident of Adobe-Meadows
13 minutes ago

I agree with village fool. There is a lot going on that people don’t know about. OCR investigations will continue for a long time after Skelly has exited stage right. His terrible management and lack of accountability will continue to be a millstone around the community’s neck for a long time to come . Things at Paly are going to explode as the facts come out. Same with Gunn. Rape culture is only one example of a general culture of retaliation , noncompliance , secrecy. If you think about it, it really can’t be any other way. Anyone who has watched a board meeting in the past 5 years has come away slack jawed and disgusted at how monumentally incompetent they are. With no functioning oversight, and an arrogant and secretive management at 25 Churchill what did you expect. There were plenty of people including Barbara Klausner, Becky Beacom, ken Dauber and others who were pointing out problems but all you people wanted was happy talk. Well try happy talking about the sh@t that is about to go down. That’ll be fun to watch. Clean house or see your schools degrade. I can’t wait to see tabithas press release about the new information. Remember “experience matters”? Maybe not in the way you thought.

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Posted by Experience did not matter , a resident of Adobe-Meadows
15 hours ago

I agree with village fool. There is a lot going on that people don’t know about. OCR investigations will continue for a long time after Skelly has exited stage right. His terrible management and lack of accountability will continue to be a millstone around the community’s neck for a long time to come . Things at Paly are going to explode as the facts come out. Same with Gunn. Rape culture is only one example of a general culture of retaliation , noncompliance , secrecy. If you think about it, it really can’t be any other way. Anyone who has watched a board meeting in the past 5 years has come away slack jawed and disgusted at how monumentally incompetent they are. With no functioning oversight, and an arrogant and secretive management at 25 Churchill what did you expect. There were plenty of people including Barbara Klausner, Becky Beacom, ken Dauber and others who were pointing out problems but all you people wanted was happy talk. [Portion removed.]

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

@worse – quite possibly it is worse. Bad news travel slowly. Here is my take on “cutting the mike” of the PAUSD Board Secret meetings Thread – Web Link

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
52 minutes ago

@worse – quite possibly it is worse. Bad news travel slowly. [Portion removed.]

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Posted by Student, a resident of Palo Alto High School
6 hours ago

Kim Diorio? I want Phil Winston back – he made great changes while she has done nothing and doesn’t answer emails. She gets overwhelmed easily and has young children to distract her. She is a nice person, however.

Mrs. Diorio, I suggest teacher evaluations so the super challenging teachers have to change their ways. Some of them have no idea of the pressure we face as teenagers in a college prep environment. And it’s not just the students who take 10 APs (limiting quantity of APs taken would help lower stress). Some teachers are just TOO passionate about force-feeding information.

Student, do you realize what happens when Gunn is in the rankings? It DOES cause stress because immigrants who prioritize academics above all else (besides piano and violin) look at those rankings and flock to your school. These immigrants prioritize academics to the extreme, so competition at your school becomes extreme and everyone ends up sleep-deprived.

And to Gunn parents who think so well of Advisory – it’s a waste of time and the teachers are full of lack of information and misinformation. I don’t trust anything they say about the college process because they are teachers, not specialists like the college counselors at our school. No one goes to their Advisor for help. More time instead of Advisory would be helpful. Depending on teachers, we have little time to recuperate.

After:

Posted by Student, a resident of Palo Alto High School
20 hours ago

Kim Diorio? I want Phil Winston back – he made great changes while she has done nothing and doesn’t answer emails. She gets overwhelmed easily and has young children to distract her. She is a nice person, however.

Mrs. Diorio, I suggest teacher evaluations so the super challenging teachers have to change their ways. Some of them have no idea of the pressure we face as teenagers in a college prep environment. And it’s not just the students who take 10 APs (limiting quantity of APs taken would help lower stress). Some teachers are just TOO passionate about force-feeding information.

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And to Gunn parents who think so well of Advisory – it’s a waste of time and the teachers are full of lack of information and misinformation. I don’t trust anything they say about the college process because they are teachers, not specialists like the college counselors at our school. No one goes to their Advisor for help. More time instead of Advisory would be helpful. Depending on teachers, we have little time to recuperate.

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Thread Titled:Seventy-six in Palo Alto school district get tenure

link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/03/25/seventy-six-in-palo-alto-school-district-to-get-tenure-tonight

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Posted by Anony Mouse, a resident of Juana Briones School
15 minutes ago

My once-a-year foray into Palo Alto Online.
It draws to an end.
You can have it back now, trolls.
I am alienated.
Stop by for a cup of tea sometime.
I’d love to talk about how much I love my students,
and how I love the parent support.
And how tenure is part of the complicated mix
that makes this job worthwhile.
It’s mostly the students, though.
I’m out.

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Posted by Anony Mouse, a resident of Juana Briones School
18 hours ago

[Portion removed.]
Stop by for a cup of tea sometime.
I’d love to talk about how much I love my students,
and how I love the parent support.
And how tenure is part of the complicated mix
that makes this job worthwhile.
It’s mostly the students, though.
I’m out.

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Threat Titled: Palo Alto mulls dedicating new parkland

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link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2014/03/19/council-mulls-dedicating-new-parkland

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
16 hours ago

@Moderator – may I, respectfully, suggest to consider adding this thread to another category? (currently it is under schools & kids category)

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
16 hours ago

@Moderator – may I also, respectfully, suggest to add a new category? Maybe the new category can be titled – for Palo Alto residents, ONLY?
(it is my understanding that this park is not accessible to anyone who is not “Palo Altan”).

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Thread titled: Three Palo Alto principals announce retirements

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/03/19/three-palo-alto-principals-announce-retirements#comment_form

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Posted by Cheap shots at the principals, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
28 minutes ago

The Weekly has always been fickle with deletions. I have posted some hard-hitting criticism of both teachers and administrators and it has been left intact, while other innocuous posts have been sent away. I’ll keep posting. If you read the Town Square rules, you’ll be surprised. I consider it good input and feedback. The threat from posting your name for some of us in the community is real, it cannot be ignored. But Beth Estrada’s snipes at other posters does nothing to help the dialogue. For example, the anger in her posts is embarrassing, and yet I don’t think she can see it as readily as she misinterprets it in another post. The tone of her posts is indeed arrogant, IMO. Is it against the rules to point that out? Would that be anger? Does that have a tone? I hope this post helps her, I really do, because it doesn’t matter if you were raised in Palo Alto like me or if you have been here less than two years (that other poster made me think about hiring practices), all opinions should be welcome in a democracy or Town Square. Labeling them mean, angry, or otherwise is a fair opinion, but it’s just that.

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Posted by Cheap shots at the principals, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
8 hours ago

The Weekly has always been fickle with deletions. I have posted some hard-hitting criticism of both teachers and administrators and it has been left intact, while other innocuous posts have been sent away. I’ll keep posting. If you read the Town Square rules, you’ll be surprised. I consider it good input and feedback. The threat from posting your name for some of us in the community is real, it cannot be ignored. But Beth Estrada’s snipes at other posters does nothing to help the dialogue. [Portion removed.] I hope this post helps her, I really do, because it doesn’t matter if you were raised in Palo Alto like me or if you have been here less than two years (that other poster made me think about hiring practices), all opinions should be welcome in a democracy or Town Square. Labeling them mean, angry, or otherwise is a fair opinion, but it’s just that.

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Thread Titled: OCR finds retaliation by San Carlos schools from IEP meeting recording

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/03/15/ocr-finds-retaliation-by-san-carlos-school-district-in-dispute–over-iep-meeting-recording-

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Posted by Jumping the shark, a resident of Greenmeadow
3 hours ago

“a tough spot for all” is finally showing her hand. She seems to have two aims:

1) Expunge special education students from PAUSD, by suggesting to parents that they transfer to Redwood City rather than stay in our schools. I don’t know how to respond to that, except to say that it’s nauseating.

2) [Portion removed due to referencing previously deleted comment.]

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Thread Titled: Why is Town Square So Out of Sync With Dominant Free Speech Norms of the Internet; or, is this Forum Not a Forum Anymore Due to Heavy-Handed Editing of Posts

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/index.php?i=3&d=1&t=21685#comment_form

Before: (March, 13, 2014)

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
35 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.

@village idiot & Palydad – have I missed any updates?

(a very simple question which must be asked extremely carefully – I tried to ask a couple of months ago, my question vanished).

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Thread Titled : Special education family sues district

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/03/06/special-education-family-sues-district

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
2 hours ago

village fool is a registered user.
@JLS mom of 2 – I decided to log in and respond to you. I hope you’ll see my post before it is gone.
You raised this issues shortly after the PAUSD board’s secret meeting became public knowledge in a fascinating thread which was locked, completely, fast.

I responded to you, then that:
“I see several obstacles standing in the way of public grass rooting, organizing petitions, etc. The biggest one is fear of retaliation. I doubt anyone who currently has a child in PAUSD will risk the child well being, especially if there are current concerns regarding the child….” (part of my comment, I cannot copy all).
Here is a link to this very informative thread: Web Link

Obviously, these issues were discussed in other places. The fact that these type issues are still impacting children just amplify my understanding that nothing has changed, unfortunately.
Sadly, I think that my open address to Ms. Gaona- mendoza after the Oct 8th board meeting still reflects the current atmosphere – Web Link

I think that the Oct 8th PAUSD Board meeting provided a clear “preview” to the Jan 28th PAUSD Board meeting that was titled by the great editorial – Nadir.

Unfortunately, it seems to me that the real nadirs still happen mostly behind closed doors, no TV presence. I wrote more here – Web Link

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
2 hours ago

village fool is a registered user.
@JLS mom of 2 –
You raised this issues shortly after the PAUSD board’s secret meeting became public knowledge in a fascinating thread [portion removed.]

I responded to you, then that:
“I see several obstacles standing in the way of public grass rooting, organizing petitions, etc. The biggest one is fear of retaliation. I doubt anyone who currently has a child in PAUSD will risk the child well being, especially if there are current concerns regarding the child….” (part of my comment, I cannot copy all).
Here is a link to this very informative thread: Web Link

Obviously, these issues were discussed in other places. The fact that these type issues are still impacting children just amplify my understanding that nothing has changed, unfortunately.
Sadly, I think that my open address to Ms. Gaona- mendoza after the Oct 8th board meeting still reflects the current atmosphere – Web Link

I think that the Oct 8th PAUSD Board meeting provided a clear “preview” to the Jan 28th PAUSD Board meeting that was titled by the great editorial – Nadir.

Unfortunately, it seems to me that the real nadirs still happen mostly behind closed doors, no TV presence. I wrote more here – Web Link

Comments: 

The beginning of my comment was censored. I posted:

“@JLS mom of 2 – I decided to log in and respond to you. I hope you’ll see my post before it is gone.
You raised this issues shortly after the PAUSD board’s secret meeting became public knowledge in a fascinating thread which was locked, completely, fast.”

The moderator  removed my first sentence without indicating that.  I actually do not  understand the reason that had many of my comments disappeared completely, without a trace, before. The  portion removed, marked by the moderator, was: ” which was locked, completely, fast.”. I think that my description did not violate any terms of use. The thread was locked, completely, fast.  The thread is still locked now.

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Thread Titled: Editorial: The Skelly resignation

link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/02/21/editorial-the-skelly-resignation

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Posted by George Orwell, a resident of East Palo Alto

13 minutes ago
George Orwell is a registered user.

Bravo! lock the thread, silence the discussion.

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Comment vanished.

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Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

@moderator – may I suggest to consider adding this thread to the Schools & Kids category?

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Thread moved from “Around town” Category to ‘Schools & kids” category. You are very welcome.

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Thread Titled:Palo Alto superintendent Kevin Skelly to resign June 30

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/02/18/palo-alto-superintendent-kevin-skelly-to-resign-june-30

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Posted by Business, not personal, a resident of Terman Middle School
5 minutes ago

Kevin Skelly is not concerned with students first, Kevin Skelly is all about Kevin Skelly, even in the end. He should have been phased out beginning in 2009 when he made borderline racist comments about Latino students and also parents with doctorates. Then with Everyday Math and the ineffective response to the suicides, a search should have begun for a new superintendent in early 2010 at the latest. The board was negligent to not do this then and they appear clueless now as Barb Mitchell states that his departure is all his decision. I hope that is not true because this town is thirsty for leadership, the kind where there is controversy for the right reason. Skelly will have received around $2,000,000 in pay, benefits, and other perks like an interest-free loan at the taxpayers’ expense. He did pretty well for himself in almost seven years, he has benefitted from Palo Alto quite handsomely. Now with his leaving, the board has a pretty simple task of calling up Leadership Associates for a new superintendent, which has a good chance to be someone who is connected to Skelly. How well do you predict the board will perform its duty? Do you have faith in them anymore? Skelly is part of the problem and his damage is going to last in the form of lawsuits and legal fees. But now what? Charles Young? Probably not, because Skelly has propped him up for almost three years. Scott Bowers? Almost, but not quite. Scott Laurence. Not even close. Don’t cheer Skelly’s resignation if you want to be mean that won’t help students, but continue to demand the best of your board or send the, on their way.

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Posted by Business, not personal, a resident of Terman Middle School
29 minutes ago

[Post removed.]

Comment, another post by Business, not personal:

Posted by Business, not personal, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
3 minutes ago

Thanks for deleting my previous post, I didn’t really like it. The following is more important. From a post I made in the Town Square in August, 2013:

“I predict we’ll have announcement of a resignation by February by Skelly.”

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Posted by Curious, a resident of Greenmeadow
4 minutes ago

Has anyone else noticed that posts criticizing Kevin Skelly tend to have worse grammar and spelling?

Good luck, Kevin – you will be missed.

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Thread titled: Editorial: The Paly English kerfuffle

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/02/14/editorial-the-paly-english-kerfuffle

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Posted by delete the idiot, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
15 minutes ago

Editor — why does “Answers” get to say that about Mrs. Launer? That is an accusation essentially of incompetence in her profession. She is a HS teacher not a public figure. I know you deleted the worst crap and garbage out of that post (attacking a special needs child? Publicizing who is adopted? What a dickhead “answers” is and also what low, low depths these pro-tracking racists are willing to sink to)) But you missed a spot. Do you have a reason it is reasonable to accuse her of professional incompetence in a publication? If not, fix it.

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Posted by delete the idiot, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
4 hours ago

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

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Thread Titled: School board to vote on harassment policy

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/02/10/school-board-to-vote-on-harassment-policy

Before:

Posted by Reality check, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
21 minutes ago

There was no strong negative campaign against Townsend from the Dauber side, at least not one I noticed. There was, though, a strong negative campaign against Danger from the Townsend campaign. Mandie Lowell, wife of the Santa Clara County Republican party leader and billionaire Charles Munger, sent thousands of negative emails targeting Dauber just before the election. Lowell was Townsend cochair.

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Thread Titled: Editorial: The school board’s nadir

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2014/01/31/editorial-the-school-boards-nadir

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Before:

Posted by Pete Seeger, a resident of Duveneck School
3 minutes ago

Mitchell is completely completely consistent. Liberty is for white people. Authority is for brown people. Anyone who thinks that Ms. Mitchell would have treated a white Jordan student from Duveneck with that kind of contempt, I have a bridge for you.

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Posted by Pete Seeger, a resident of Duveneck School
1 hour ago

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Thread Titled:  Referendum threatens transgender student law

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/31/referendum-threatens-transgender-student-law

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Posted by Hushabye, a resident of Stanford
18 minutes ago
Herr von Henzau, you have too little to do and too much spare time. Stop offending people.

Posted by Rupert of Henzau, a resident of Midtown
4 minutes ago

Nayeli– if you would bother to read my posts carefully, you will see that I am not enameled with conservatives, Christians right wingers and republicans. Just the opposite, I dislike their disregard for equal rights for minorities,gays etc. just because a majority of,people oppose something does not mean anything- rights issues are not decided by majority vote.
You have put forth a series of ridiculous scenarios regarding this benign law.

Frau hushaby Hutcheson– expressing opinion sthat others disagree with may seem ” offensive”. However that is my right. I find you comment offensive

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Posted by Hushabye, a resident of Stanford
2 hours ago

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Posted by Rupert of Henzau, a resident of Midtown
2 hours ago

Nayeli– if you would bother to read my posts carefully, you will see that I am not enameled with conservatives, Christians right wingers and republicans. Just the opposite, I dislike their disregard for equal rights for minorities,gays etc. just because a majority of,people oppose something does not mean anything- rights issues are not decided by majority vote.

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Thread Titled:

Why is Town Square So Out of Sync With Dominant Free Speech Norms of the Internet; or, is this Forum Not a Forum Anymore Due to Heavy-Handed Editing of Posts

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/09/09/why-is-town-square-so-out-of-sync-with-dominant-free-speech-norms-of-the-internet-or-is-this-forum-not-a-forum-anymore-due-to-heavy-handed-editing-of-posts

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Before – posted 01/01/2014:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.
@PalyDad – Have I missed any updates?

(meanwhile I bumped into other manifestations that are beyond my grasp. I posted samples of what I happened to see (Before & After) in my blog – Web Link)

Happy New Year!

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Thread Titled:  Open address to Ken Dauber – PLEASE, reconsider forming a Shadow PAUSD Board.

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/17/open-address-to-ken-dauber–please–reconsider-forming-a-shadow-pausd-board

Before #1:

Posted by parent is full of it, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
3 minutes ago

@parent — I respectfully disagree. I believe that what is watering down the district is wasting time, money, attention, and resources on things like civil rights investigations into why the district did not do enough to prevent and remediate the bullying of disabled children, why the district’s policies do not meet the minimum legally required, why we have RAPE CULTURE in our high school, and why our compliance officer cannot get us into compliance. Everything just listed out is deadweight loss and also an absolute disgrace and embarrassment.

What is watering down education is paying money and attention to all this stuff that is not education. that is due to the fact that we have a board of inept hens. We need a board with some leaders. Dauber is a leader. All this stuff about watering down is just nonsense. He went to Yale. He’s a Googler. He’s smarter than any of these people, and the idea that he doesn’t care about education is just dumb. One child graduated from Stanford, one from Cal, one from RISD, I don’t know about the rest. One of his daughters is a teacher.

Try your slander another time.

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Posted by parent is full of it, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
10 minutes ago

@parent — I respectfully disagree. I believe that what is watering down the district is wasting time, money, attention, and resources on things like civil rights investigations into why the district did not do enough to prevent and remediate the bullying of disabled children, why the district’s policies do not meet the minimum legally required, why we have RAPE CULTURE in our high school, and why our compliance officer cannot get us into compliance. Everything just listed out is deadweight loss and also an absolute disgrace and embarrassment.

What is watering down education is paying money and attention to all this stuff that is not education. that is due to the fact that we have a board of inept hens. We need a board with some leaders. Dauber is a leader. All this stuff about watering down is just nonsense. [Portion removed.]

Before #2:

Posted by PalyDad, a resident of Palo Alto High School
2 minutes ago

PalyDad is a registered user.
Please explain how Dauber’s biography or his educationally successful children violate your terms of use. How is it offensive to say his kids went to Stanford and Cal and he went to Yale but not offensive to say that the fact that he lost was “dodging a bullet” and he wants to “water down” education? [Portion removed] you.

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Before #3:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.
Where has PalyDad’s comment gone?
It can be found along the missing portion of “parent is full of it” on my blog where I dedicated a on a page to Editing/Censoring – Web Link

After #3:

My post gone. I cannot understand the “editing” of #1, and the vanishing of #2.  Having seen the “fate” of #1 and #2 I could expect that  #3,  my comment referring to this page, will disappear.

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Thread Titled: In secret, school board weighs not cooperating with federal agency

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/07/12/in-secret-school-board-weighs-not-cooperating-with-federal-agency

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Posted by yes, but, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 4, 2014 at 9:16 am

Town Square Moderator,

There is a separate thread which Village Fool keeps resuscitating which I believe is a method to ignite controversy surrounding similar issues. It’s among your top posts of the day. If people click, it just gets more views, usually few people have commented since the original thread was started.

I have appreciated your delivering news on the topics regardless of controversy; however, when posters use a thread to ignite passions towards one view or another, that seems unnecessary. Astroturf movements on Town Square should at least have real people behind them.

Palo Alto Online Moderator Response:

Thanks for pointing this out. We’ve closed that topic from further comment so this won’t happen any longer.

(posted on:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2014/01/31/editorial-the-school-boards-nadir)

Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
on Jul 15, 2013 at 5:47 am

I am confused – is it certain that the recent agreements with the OCR will be followed?

After:

Thread locked, made available only to those who log in. That proved to stifle the discussion.

Before- posted on 01/02/2014

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago
village fool is a registered user.
@Never been more disgusted – Back in July you wrote:
“…Or maybe I will continue to teach my students that their democratic duty is to criticize their elected and paid leaders to ensure that they are representing us. My union president may be silent right now, but I will not be.”
I wished you, then, that you voice will be heard. I decided, then, to try to follow up with you.
I want to think that you also teach the virtues of free speech, First Amendment etc.

“teachers too” ended her/his comment here ( Web Link) saying: “… they are the people we pay to care for our kids, and they are all part of the problem. Until they recognize that and stop playing the game of silence, then only then will we be on the way to improvement.”

All correlates nicely to your July’s comment, above.

Wishing you that your voice will be heard and inspire your students. Many agree that teachers’ personal modeling can go a long way.
Happy New year!

(this is part of a longer post in my blog – Web Link)

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Before – posted 12/15/2013:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.

@Never been so disgusted – Back in July I decided to try and follow up with you. I posted here, yesterday, Saturday 12/14/12.
My sincere efforts to conform to the Terms of Use did not help me, and my comment disappeared completely. It can be found on my blog where I have posted samples of editing/censoring (Web Link)

Happy Holidays and Break! (I hope my holiday greetings will remain untouched)

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The following comment was posted, and disappeared on Saturday, 12/14/13

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
1 hour ago

village fool is a registered user.

@Never been more disgusted – back in July you wrote – “…Or maybe I will continue to teach my students that their democratic duty is to criticize their elected and paid leaders to ensure that they are representing us. My union president may be silent right now, but I will not be.”
I wished you, then, that your voice would be heard.

Back in July I decided to try and follow up with you. I am writing to wish you a great Holiday and break!

I do hope that you are also teaching the virtues of free speech. I wonder if teaching the virtues of free speech include any type of personal modeling?
Back in July I could not have foreseen my comments being removed the way they have been now. I am aware that this thread was restricted only to those who log in. I am sorry about that, apparently this is a one way communication. I could suggest an alternative, but I think that having mentioned an alternative is one of the reasons that had my comments have disappeared completely, so I’ll refrain from mentioning alternatives.

I am copying “Teachers too”s comment (which was posted here: Web Link). This comment articulates parts of the thoughts I was having back in July. I am hoping that copying a comment which was not edited will help me in my sincere effort to conform here and have this comment remained untouched.

“Teachers too” wrote: “The school board is responsible for approving policy and directing the superintendent, currently Kevin Skelly, and they have been woefully incapable of these basic responsibilities. Increasingly absent are defensive excuses in this forum about how they are volunteers, good-people, and other emptiness designed to divert attention from how harmful the school board and Kevin Skelly have been to the PAUSD brand. Teachers are perhaps the biggest part of this particular thread. They are the most important adult at school in a student’s life and they have the most contact time with the student, and that includes the supervision and monitoring for the student’s well-being. In some of these bullying cases, the teacher has been accused, just like the principal, of failing to protect the student from bullying. In short, bullying has everything to do about teachers. It’s quite basic. Union folks have been eerily quiet about this whole mess. I think part is explained by a deal to remain quiet and collect raises, you know, don’t rock the boat and you’ll get what you want. I think the other part is that the union doesn’t know what to do, judging by the past few years of watching former PAEA president Triona Gogarty and current president Teri Baldwin publicly represent teachers at PAUSD board meetings, focusing of pay raises and nothing else. PAEA is one of the most powerful forces in PAUSD, nothing gets done without Skelly first asking for approval, and that includes anti-bullying policy. You would think that paying all these people more would result in the resolution of PAUSD problems, but it has had the opposite effect. Will the board’s 5-0 vote in 12 hours make Skelly a better leader? Well, did the 5-0 votes last month and in the spring to give raises to the teachers and principals make them better at what they do? They are all part of the organization, they are the people we pay to care for our kids, and they are all part of the problem. Until they recognize that and stop playing the game of silence, then only then will we be on the way to improvement. ”

Let me copy, again, the last sentence of “Teachers too”s comment – “… they are the people we pay to care for our kids, and they are all part of the problem. Until they recognize that and stop playing the game of silence, then only then will we be on the way to improvement. ”
This goes back to my points about modeling the virtues of free speech and exercising academic freedom.

Wishing you, again, great Holiday!

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Before – Posted on July 13, 2013

Posted by Almost done with PAUSD, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, 49 minutes ago

Speaking of honesty,

@ Peter Carpenter,

How come you usually post as a resident of Atherton, bug when the topic is SFO airplane noise, all of a sudden you post as living in Menlo Park? Strange indeed.

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Posted by Almost done with PAUSD, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 13, 2013 at 11:23 am

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Before – posted on July 13, 3013

Posted by insider, a resident of another community, 30 minutes ago

Phil Winston’s departure was welcomed by nearly all PAHS teachers. Only thing better would be that it happened sooner. He made a mockery of school policies Re: cheating, grading, & attendance. Teachers were compelled by Winston to ignore misbehaviors & dishonesty. If parents went to him to complain that their precious darlings were not really D students, based on classroom exams, Phil ordered teachers to change the grades. He was working the parent popularity contest at the expense of honest kids who worked hard, did their assignments & had parents mature & responsible enough to let their kids learn from their own mistakes. Some kids were notorious plagiarists & cheats, but Phil sided with the whiny parents & eliminated consequences & ordered grade changes. Mr. Phil, the fix-it man. Good riddance. PAHS lost some good teachers because of this clown, who now hopes to stay in the district as a teacher. Surprised he isn’t hitting up the powerful parents whose kids got into better-than-they-deserved colleges for some soft job as a reward for his collusion.

After:

Posted by insider, a resident of another community
on Jul 13, 2013 at 11:42 am

Phil Winston’s departure was welcomed by nearly all PAHS teachers. Only thing better would be that it happened sooner. He made a mockery of school policies Re: cheating, grading, & attendance. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]

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Before-  Posted on July 13, 3013

Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton, 13 minutes ago
Peter Carpenter is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online

“Speaking of honesty,

@ Peter Carpenter,

How come you usually post as a resident of Atherton, bug when the topic is SFO airplane noise, all of a sudden you post as living in Menlo Park? Strange indeed.”

You are not paying attention – I ALWAYS post using my real name (and your’s is?) and as an Atherton resident.

Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton, 14 hours ago.

Posted by Peter Carpenter, a resident of Atherton, 15 hours ago

etc, etc, etc.

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Thread Titled: School board OKs new calendar, staff raises

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/11/school-board-oks-new-calendar-staff-raises#comment_form

Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

@Michele Dauber – you wrote: “… Four years ago, I posted here that this was a north south issue. That the school board simply did not care about providing equity to Gunn. The publisher deleted that statement then as inflammatory. Let’s see if he still thinks I am wrong after last night.”

Thank you. I cannot understand the rationale behind the editing/censoring. At some point it became clear to me that the editing practice actually harms the chances of issues being exposed. No correction is possible without a serious analysts of the infrastructure that enables the occurrences of which we are aware. Those occurrences are most likely only the tip of the iceberg, as was mentioned in the excellent editorial accompanying the info about the OCR presence in PAUSD.

That was part of the reasons that had me address Mr. Dauber back in March calling to form a Shadow PAUSD Board. (Web Link).

Yesterday I addressed to Mr. Dauber on my blog, asking to reconsider forming Shadow PAUSD Board – Web Link

(Shadow Cabinet – Web Link)

After –

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
1 hour ago

[Post removed.]

Comment – I do not understand why my post was removed. However, it was not removed completely. A trace was left that I posted (unlike the threads above and below). 

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Thread Titled: A plea to Village Fool

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/05/a-plea-to-village-fool

I tried to post 3 times after I posted the first one. All were removed without a trace I ever posted. I am listing the removed comments last to first.

Before  –

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.
@Anonymous – Thank you, again.
I tried to post another comment, that comment disappeared completely. I then tried rephrase and post another one – same. Gone without a trace that I ever posted. (I have posted those two removed comments. I’ll NOT provide the link now. I’m trying to comply with the UNWRITTEN terms of use).
“He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.” – George Orwell.

I am using this space to post a link to a past thread which I think relates to a very recent thread which was locked, completely.
The past thread: Web Link

I’ve read the TERMS OF USE and I believe that I have complied. Let’s see.

After-

The above comment  gone,completely. No trace that I posted.

Before  –

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.

@Anonymous – Thank you, again, for your very kind post.
Let me try, again. I’ll try to rephrase, since my second comment disappeared without a trace that I posted. Where is George Orwell when I need him? My removed comment can be found here, along several other samples of editing/censoring(?) – (Web Link)

Ms. Mendoza responded to my open letter to her after she addressed PAUSD board on Oct 8th saying:

“This is the way they work. If they do not talk about it, maybe people will think that the problem does not exist.” PA ONLINE link: Web Link

I find this quote to be a great one. I hope you can see why I posted it here. I can not write, sorry. I am trying to comply with the UNWRITTEN Terms of use. I can try to do that here only the Pavlovian way.

BTW – That Oct 8Th board meeting gained a new perspective after it became known that PAUSD is under a CDE investigation. I was appalled by the response to Ms. Mendoza. The response had me write the letter. I’ll elaborate about that on my blog, where I do not have to use Pavlovian training/guessing.

I’ve read the TERMS OF USE and I believe that I have complied. Let’s see.

After –

The above comment  gone,completely. No trace that I posted.

The disclaimer below applies –

This  thread was a very pleasant surprise.

THANK you, Anonymous, for your very kind support!

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Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
42 minutes ago

village fool is a registered user.

@Anonymous – Thanks again for your very kind post.
Let me add –
The moderator did not respond to my question above. I have asked this question many times before, in various ways and situations, at times regarding my own comments in threads I started. BTW – several of threads I started, although “hidden”, generated a decent amount of views. As far as I know, views are nice for a publishing entity.

Not only were my questions never answered before, but it did happen several times that my question disappeared completely without a trace that I’d ever posted. I believe that I always asked in a polite, civil manner.

This thread is restricted now. If logging in stops you from responding, you are very welcome to respond on my blog (Web Link), or email me – forvillagefool@gmail.com

I’ve read the TERMS OF USE and I believe that I have complied. Let’s see.

Report Objectionable Content

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The above comment  gone,completely. No trace that I posted.
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Declaimer – This thread was a surprise for me. A nice surprise. I responded the way I saw fit.
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Thread titled: Merrill Newman returns home

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/07/merrill-newman-returns-home

Before:

Posted by Josh, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
5 minutes ago

Mr. Newman: you should of never gone to North Korea. Thanks for wasting the taxpayers money! You are lucky to be home and unhurt.

Posted by Josh, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
2 minutes ago

Mr Newman, you should of never set foot in North Korea. You are lucky to be home and unhurt. Thanks for wasting the taxpayers money.

After:

Posted by Josh, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

[Post removed.]

Posted by Josh, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
1 hour ago

Mr Newman, you should of never set foot in North Korea. You are lucky to be home and unhurt. [Post removed.]

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Thread titled: Thanks from the DPRK

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/03/thanks-from-the-dprk

Before:

Thanks from the DPRK

Original post made by Kim Jong-un on Dec 3, 2013

Thanks, weekly, for deleting the erroneous and inflammatory comments regarding the DPRK. Newman and Bae are enemies of the state and the inflammatory comments by many of the posters served no useful purpose, so it is wonderful that you censored, whoops, I mean removed those comments. Perhaps you can track down theseosters and have them re-educated.
Again the sincerest thanks from the DPRK. My donation check should be arriving shortly

Posted by Kim jong-on, a resident of another community
3 minutes ago

In my excitement to shower you with praise, weekly staff, I forgot the link to the thread with the vil comments about the DPRK
Web Link

After:

I can not find this thread.

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Thread titled:” Proposed bullying policies to be reviewed”.

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/12/02/proposed-bullying-policies-to-be-reviewed

Before:

Posted by Paly Dad, a resident of Palo Alto High School
6 hours ago

I have no problem with contributing through donations or taxes. What I object to is the incompetence of Kevin Skelly and his management team, including especially Katherine Baker the former Terman principal who was promoted after the OCR found that the school under her leadership violated the civil rights of a disabled student by allowing her to be bullied extensively. Because of this incompetent leadership we now have legal fees, five different ongoing state and federal investigations, and private lawsuits filed with more coming.

I don’t begrudge teachers a living wage. I begrudge wasting my hard-earned money on preventable litigation. Katherine Baker should have been dismissed not promoted. Is there no accountability? Why is Charles Young still drawing a PAUSD paycheck after he fouled up the Paly “rape culture” Title IX scenario, the Terman bullying, the Duveneck bullying, and the Jordan CFS case? How many screw ups does it take to get fired? How much of my money has been wasted on Charles Young’s almost comical ineptness? Why would I donate to PIE or pay a bond so that Charles Young can screw up? I am sure Laurie Reynolds got a nice new kitchen or room addition out of it, but what are we getting?

And don’t EVEN get me started on the PR flack. Please God all I want for Christmas is a decent superintendent.

Posted by Ruined brand, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
4 hours ago

PAUSD is rolling in the money and everyone, except students, are getting their share. The board will be voting 5-0 on December 10 to give Kevin Skelly another $10,000 bonus just for the heck of it and there is not a damn thing anyone can do about it. Except never donate to PiE or vote for another parcel tax again.

Posted by PalyDad, a resident of Palo Alto High School
2 hours ago

Please do not give Kevin Skelly a bonus. Why would he get a bonus? I would like to drag my employer into five separate federal and state investigations and then show up with my hand out for a bonus check. This is like an Onion story. Superintendent draws federal investigators, allows bullying of handicapped, state investigates special ed noncompliance, parents complain in droves, boy accused of having contagious disease but doesn’t sues for discrimination, Super fails to do a damn thing about RAPE CULTURE at high school, Super hides fact of findings against district from board, super enters agreement with feds he then fails to complete on a timely basis, what in God’s name has to happen? Super gets drunk, dances with lampshade on head at board meeting? What would he have to do to NOT get a bonus.

Empty your pockets, Palo Alto. It’s Skelly Time.

After:

Posted by Paly Dad, a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Dec 1, 2013 at 6:35 pm

I have no problem with contributing through donations or taxes. What I object to is the incompetence of Kevin Skelly and his management team, including especially Katherine Baker the former Terman principal who was promoted after the OCR found that the school under her leadership violated the civil rights of a disabled student by allowing her to be bullied extensively. Because of this incompetent leadership we now have legal fees, five different ongoing state and federal investigations, and private lawsuits filed with more coming.

I don’t begrudge teachers a living wage. I begrudge wasting my hard-earned money on preventable litigation. Katherine Baker should have been dismissed not promoted. Is there no accountability? Why is Charles Young still drawing a PAUSD paycheck after he fouled up the Paly “rape culture” Title IX scenario, the Terman bullying, the Duveneck bullying, and the Jordan CFS case? [Portion removed.]

Posted by Ruined brand, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2013 at 8:23 pm

PAUSD is rolling in the money and everyone, except students, are getting their share. The board will be voting 5-0 on December 10 to give Kevin Skelly another $10,000 bonus just for the heck of it and there is not a damn thing anyone can do about it. Except never donate to PiE or vote for another parcel tax again.

Posted by PalyDad, a resident of Palo Alto High School
23 hours ago

Please do not give Kevin Skelly a bonus. Why would he get a bonus? I would like to drag my employer into five separate federal and state investigations and then show up with my hand out for a bonus check. This is like an Onion story. Superintendent draws federal investigators, allows bullying of handicapped, state investigates special ed noncompliance, parents complain in droves, boy accused of having contagious disease but doesn’t sues for discrimination, Super fails to do a damn thing about RAPE CULTURE at high school, Super hides fact of findings against district from board, super enters agreement with feds he then fails to complete on a timely basis, what in God’s name has to happen? [Portion removed.]

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Thread titled: gunn, Paly graduates reflect on their high school experiences

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/11/15/gunn-paly-graduates-reflect-on-their-high-school-experiences

Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
0 minutes ago

@ hello, this is the internet – I was sorry to see that your hilarious notes about the PR lady were removed. Frankly, in the PR lady’s defense, I think that this is an impossible job. This is an UN-PRable situation.
As to your removed post –
“This is Sparta” ended his/her post in the latest editorial,stating:
I’ve read the TERMS OF USE and I believe that I have complied. Let’s see.

I ended my post (Web Link) stating: I hope that my reference here will not be treated differently from other references. let’s see.

Both posts were not touched. Maybe this is a way to have your hilarious post back?

I have posted few samples of PA online editing/censoring(?) in my blog, here – Web Link

@This is Sparta (from – Web Link): I hope you do not mind me using your phrasing, it is by far better than mine.

I’ve read the TERMS OF USE and I believe that I have complied. Let’s see.

After:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
5 hours ago

@ hello, this is the internet – I was sorry to see that your hilarious notes about the PR lady were removed. Frankly, in the PR lady’s defense, I think that this is an impossible job. This is an UN-PRable situation.

[Portion removed.]

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Thread titled: District refutes Duveneck Elementary bullying complaint

http://www.paloaltoonline.com/print/story/2013/06/14/district-refutes-duveneck-elementary-bullying-complaint

Before:

1. I saw J-school dropout  comment before it was removed.

Posted by J-school dropout, a resident of Community Center
on Jun 14, 2013 at 8:32 am

[Post removed due to same poster using multiple names]

2.   I tried to post it four times. All disappeared instantaneously. I am pasting here one sample of the four attempts. At some point I logged in to be sure that there is no way to mistake me posting in multiple names.

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community, 0 minutes ago
village fool is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online

@J school dropout – I am taking the liberty to post your first deleted comment. I hope you do not mind. Unfortunately, I did not read the your other deleted posts. I do hope this comment will not be deleted, I am confident I have not posted using multiple names.

J school dropout wrote: “I have to agree with “Alert reader” — a better headline would have been “District asserts it followed correct procedures in Duveneck bullying complaint, but lacks any documentation.” I wonder whether your reporter understands enough about the law and district policy to write an informative story, since not following the UCP means that the district didn’t follow either the law or its own policy.

I think censoring criticism of the Weekly’s reporting is the wrong response, although since it’s the Weekly’s forum it’s the editor’s prerogative. It’s a little odd, however, to criticize Skelly for being defensive rather than improving when the Weekly is exhibiting the same behavior.

Beyond the Weekly’s reporting difficulties, this story is another example of the cost to the public and the school district of the school board’s acquiescence in Skelly’s stonewalling of any inquiry into what is going on here. We have a district administration that repeatedly flouts the law, seems not to understand or care what its obligations are, and hurts kids in the process.”

Report Objectionable Content

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3. After my posting were removed without a trace that I ever posted,  I posted the following question:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community, 0 minutes ago

@editor – May I ask why my postings were removed without a trace? I tried to post 3 times in the past half hour. I copied the first deleted post of “J school dropout”. I have specified that I have copied the post, I used . The reason given for removing ‘J school dropout” comments was that they were posted under one using multiple names. My third deleted posting was done after I logged in, I am confident I did not use multiple names.

My comments were removed instantly, without a trace that I ever posted. I do hope that this question will not be removed this way.

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4. After #3 above disappeared completely I posted the following:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community, 0 minutes ago

@editor – May I ask? This is I my forth attempt to post. All the previous attempts were removed, instantly, without a trace. I am not specifying now any context of my previous attempts to post. The instantaneous removal gives a very uncomfortable feel, added to the fact there there was no trace left.

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After:

Currently (Nov/13) non of the above can be found.

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Thread Titled: Open address to Ms. Mendoza, the lady who addressed the PAUSD board on 10/8/13

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/10/13/open-address-to-ms-mendoza-the-lady-who-brought-the-office-of-civil-rights-ocr-to-pausd-and-few-related-thoughts-

Before:
Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
4 minutes ago

@Paly parent 2 – Thank you for noticing the – “deleting out of existence”. It is not only about me, and has been going on for a long time. More so in the past few months.
I truly believe that schools issues can not be addressed without everything being exposed. Yes – the impartial investigation I mentioned, over and over.
There is no way to disconnect the infrastructure that enabled the lack of accountability (for example) from the rest of the culture.
Quite a while ago I came to conclusion that the editing here actually harm the chances of exposing issues that are crucial for all the students. At some point I decided to voice my opinion in a place where I can not be “deleted”. Thus my blog. I elaborated about the the letter above in my blog – Web Link
I found the fact that all my references to my blog were removed without a trace that I ever posted quite appalling, especially since others do that all the time – I did not observe others to be “deleted” this way.

I posted the letter above here since I wanted to try to make sure that Ms. Mendoza will see that. I believe that support and acknowledgment can not be underestimated, especially when one experienced bullying.

After:
Posted by village fool, a resident of another community
20 minutes ago

[Portion removed.]
I truly believe that schools issues can not be addressed without everything being exposed. Yes – the impartial investigation I mentioned, over and over.
There is no way to disconnect the infrastructure that enabled the lack of accountability (for example) from the rest of the culture.
Quite a while ago I came to conclusion that the editing here actually harm the chances of exposing issues that are crucial for all the students. At some point I decided to voice my opinion in a place where I can not be “deleted”. Thus my blog. I elaborated about the the letter above in my blog – Web Link
[Portion removed.]

I posted the letter above here since I wanted to try to make sure that Ms. Mendoza will see that. I believe that support and acknowledgment can not be underestimated, especially when one experienced bullying.

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Thread titled:” Private giving to public schools widens the gap between rich and poor.”

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2013/09/05/private-giving-to-public-schools-widens-the-gap-between-rich-and-poor

Before:

Santa Clara Prof. posted twice (I noticed). The first post  disappeared completely. I must admit that I could not understand the reason for removing the first comment without a trace that it was ever posted.

The second comment, in response to the fact that the  first comment disappeared, was:

Posted by Santa Clara prof, a resident of the College Terrace neighborhood, 11 minutes ago

Does the editor have a hidden anti-feminist agenda? Surprising.

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After:

Santa Clara Prof can be found only once now (10/31/2013):

Posted by Santa Clara Prof, a resident of College Terrace
on Sep 8, 2013 at 10:42 am

[Post removed.]

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Thread Titled: Family files claim against school district

Link:http://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2013/07/09/family-files-claim-against-school-district-

Before:

Posted by village fool, a resident of another community, 0 minutes ago

@editor –

1.- “D lamp” was reminded, above, of a political ordeal and provided a link. I can not recall the exact link, providing another one – here –Web Link

2.- “how odd” posted one word – Why?

3.- I responded suggesting the possibility of recalling controversial politics practices.

4. – This whole dialog was removed. “how odd”‘s posting- why? was removed completely, no trace.

5.- I do not know what Erlichman posted – I may be able to guess.

6.- I must admit that I can not grasp the consideration of removing. It seems to me that the considerations manifested recently reflect the atmosphere the majority is trying to impose on those who do not conform.

After:

Post gone. (I edited, above Erlichman – in my post it was another name, mistakenly, which i corrected in a following post which was removed as well).

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Thread Titled:  @recent and frequent commentators – will you kindly share why you stop posting when threads become available only to those who are logged in?

Link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/index.php?i=3&d=1&t=21058

Before:

Posted by nice haircut, a resident of the Adobe-Meadows neighborhood, 20 minutes ago

The Weekly has a definite, explicit perspective taken in editorials both on the substantive issues and on the appropriate procedural ways to pursue them. Edits are often made to posts not when they violate any terms of service (i.e., not disrespectful, not profane, not quoting anyone, etc) but when they argue points that the Weekly may agree with in principle but thinks that they exceed the bounds of what the public will find acceptable. For example, the Weekly persistently deleted all posts referring to the fact that the gym donor is an anti-gay bigot who was one of the largest donors in the county to Prop 8. People are very grateful for the Paly gym and the topic was adjudged to be I think not one that the Weekly wanted to be seen to be allowing to get much play. If Mr. Peery was to withdraw his funding as a result of being called a bigot in the Weekly, the Weekly didn’t want to be blamed for that loss of $20 million dollars. And so every comment comparing accepting $20 million dollars from a committed anti-gay bigot to accepting $20 million from an avowed anti-Semite or an avowed white supremacist was deleted. This even happened after a gay Paly student posted. That thread was locked, comments decrying bigotry were deleted, and the topic went away. There was never a public discussion of whether or not the school district ought to accept $20 million from someone with such views. And then of course the same donor gave to a playground for disabled children, was publicly sainted, and that was the end of any conversation. But this is the same Weekly publisher who withdrew his endorsement from a judicial candidate for giving a far far far smaller amount of money $500 — to Prop,. 8 for having values inconsistent with a public role. So when it is $20 million, we have evidently crossed the threshold into “shhhhh.” Another, similar example is the refusal of the Weekly to allow its education reporter to be criticized in the forums even though her coverage is usually not very good or fair to either the district or its critics. There is little in the way of fact checking or real reporting, stories often require corrections which are made quietly rather than publicly. Critique is not allowed, although that seems like the minimum expected of what is essentially an electronic “letters to the editor.” Criticism of the board that becomes harsh is also deleted, even though they are public figures and elected officials and even though quite a bit harsher criticism of the City Council is permitted. The custom in Palo Alto is to treat the school board as girls and the City Council as boys — the critique is gendered. Criticism of the board must be quite a bit more genteel than of the Council which is more rough and tumble. Another example is the fear exhibited by the paper of any accurate reporting of the role of Mandy Lowell Munger in the last board election which was quite important and not reported at all. This entire post will be deleted shortly so I hope you see it quickly. It will be disappeared including the fact that it ever happened. This is an example of that phenomenon.

After:
Posted by nice haircut, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jun 9, 2013 at 8:31 pm

The Weekly has a definite, explicit perspective taken in editorials both on the substantive issues and on the appropriate procedural ways to pursue them. Edits are often made to posts not when they violate any terms of service (i.e., not disrespectful, not profane, not quoting anyone, etc) but when they argue points that the Weekly may agree with in principle but thinks that they exceed the bounds of what the public will find acceptable. For example, the Weekly persistently deleted all posts referring to the fact that the gym donor is an [portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff] who was one of the largest donors in the county to Prop 8. People are very grateful for the Paly gym and the topic was adjudged to be I think not one that the Weekly wanted to be seen to be allowing to get much play. If Mr. Peery was to withdraw his funding as a result of being called a [portion removed] in the Weekly, the Weekly didn’t want to be blamed for that loss of $20 million dollars. [Portion removed.] This even happened after a gay Paly student posted. There was never a public discussion of whether or not the school district ought to accept $20 million from someone with such views. And then of course the same donor gave to a playground for disabled children, was publicly sainted, and that was the end of any conversation. But this is the same Weekly publisher who withdrew his endorsement from a judicial candidate for giving a far far far smaller amount of money $500 — to Prop,. 8 for having values inconsistent with a public role. So when it is $20 million, we have evidently crossed the threshold into “shhhhh.” [Portion removed.] Criticism of the board that becomes harsh is also deleted, even though they are public figures and elected officials and even though quite a bit harsher criticism of the City Council is permitted. The custom in Palo Alto is to treat the school board as girls and the City Council as boys — the critique is gendered. Criticism of the board must be quite a bit more genteel than of the Council which is more rough and tumble. Another example is the fear exhibited by the paper of any accurate reporting of the role of Mandy Lowell Munger in the last board election which was quite important and not reported at all. This entire post will be deleted shortly so I hope you see it quickly. It will be disappeared including the fact that it ever happened. This is an example of that phenomenon.

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