What do two PA online’s threads, both published on April 8th, 2016 have in common?

*Both threads related to Stanford.
*Both threads were locked completely, no more commenting during the  June 11th’ weekend.
*Both threads share the same last line posted by the modertor:
“Sorry, but further commenting on this topic has been closed.”

Thread #1: Editorial: Stanford’s deafening silence

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2016/04/08/stanfords-deafening-silence


Last comment before closure:
Posted by Online Name
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 10, 2016 at 5:52 pm
Re the “deafening silence,” I think it’s quite telling the Joe Biden, the US Congress, the Mayor of New York City and so many other public officials have shown leadership in holding events where they responded to the victim’s statement and in some cases held public readings of her letter.Those events were 3,000 miles away. Where was the local leadership?

[Portion removed.]


Thread #2: Stanford task force recommends expulsion as ‘expected’ sanction for sexual assault

link: http://www.paloaltoonline.com/square/2015/04/08/stanford-task-force-recommends-expulsion-as-expected-sanction-for-sexual-assault


Last comment before closure:
Posted by Nonsense and innocence
a resident of Old Palo Alto
15 hours ago

While I agree that sexual assault is a matter for police, and universities should improve reporting.

But I disagree with the “innocent until proven extreme” conjecture.

Let’s put this in perspective- most organizations have rules they administrate for members. (Not judiciary!)

Example – business has a right to refuse service to unruly customers. The library can revoke my library card for not following their rules. I don’t have to be found guilty by a judge and jury of drinking a soda in the reference section. The librarian can handle that – I lose privileges when I break rules. No judge needed.

Students who cheat on exams lose the privilege of going to that school – they are expelled. There is an administrative process to determine cheating, with accusations, and appeal (usually to a disciplinary board)

I see no reason why sexual assault isn’t a rule on campus.

There could be an administrative process just like cheating. With review and with consequences (we aren’t talking jail – just the loss of privilege of attending that specific college).

You lost your library card – now you gotta get your books elsewhere. No judge needed.

So I see no problem with a reasonable administrative process.

Now we can discuss what that process looks like: is the accuser required to file a police report? Is there a disciplinary board? Do the have written guidelines? Is there appeal? Is there a range of punishments ( suspension 1term, 2 term…permanent)

All good things to discuss. All legal.

And it can be a parallel process to the judicial case.

Judge decides if you go to jail.
School decides if you can attend their school.


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